Satoshi Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 On November 13th 1999 Scotland played England and there wasn't a poppy on show (on the pitch or bench). What possibly changed between 1999 and now? Well two wars of questionable legality, both of which were unquestionbly abject failures. The US government saw during the Vietnam War how damaging a disconnect between joe public and the soliders could be and implemented a deliberate policy of lionising soldiers to prevent this from reocurring. It benefits them in two ways, first of all it helps prop support for unpopular (and frankly ridiculous) wars whilst providing a comfort blanket for the very worst excesses of the soldiers in question. Between Abu Ghraib, Soldier A and bombing weddings there have been plenty of truly horrific acts, none of which have entered the public consciousness like My Lai has (and even that required whistleblowers). Poppies now literally adorn fighter jets - it's a noble cause b*****dised beyond recongition. Rather than being about remembering the pointless sacrifice of millions of lives during WW1 (and preventing it happening again) it is now explicitly used as a pro military and pro intervention token. And also worth a reminder to it's staunch followers that the poppy commemorates soldiers dying in such ludicrous heists as the Suez Crisis. Not so much as our brave boys protecting freedom - rather a reminder that our government should stop trying to steal other peoples stuff. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 I can't read "vet" without thinking of veterinary surgeons. We thank you for your service(ing of farm animals). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velo army Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 40 minutes ago, Jacksgranda said: I can't read "vet" without thinking of veterinary surgeons. We thank you for your service(ing of farm animals). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 9 hours ago, Tommy Carcetti said: Much to love about poppy season, the trainers are a favourite of mine White shoes in the Somme would have been great. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
well fan for life Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 10 hours ago, Tommy Carcetti said: Much to love about poppy season, the trainers are a favourite of mine Presumably folk are out there queueing up outside Size? to cop a pair of the Adidas x RESPECT collab. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee-Bey Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 A lot of negativity about my trainer collection here. If you don't have a pair of Adidas Somme-ba's, are you even respecting the fallen ? No, imo. 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scary Bear Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 That Poppy Watch Twitter account makes for some interesting, whilst disturbing, viewing every year around now. I take it that time of understated, quiet reflection in November is well in the past. Get with the future and buy some poppy trainers and a tasteful poppy montage for the car. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert Raccoon Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 Always fancied a pair of trainers with a zimmerframe on the back tbh 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northboy Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 9 hours ago, Sugar_Army said: Nothing says supporting our British veterans more than tarting up a pair of trainers designed by a company whose founder was part of a family business who were in German army in 1918, became members of the Nazi party in 1933, coached and supplied sports equipment to the Hitler Youth, served in, and made weapons for the German military during the war, used captured Russian soldiers as slave labour, used "Heil Hitler" in the closing of business correspondences and in post war investigations appeared to be not the kind of people you would trust. While I am happy to support veterans and think the government should be doing more, and I am pretty sure that Adidas are no way like the people involved who helped eventually bring about its foundation (jury might still be out on the appropriate use of labour) not sure if personalising your trainers with "Lest We Forget" and "Somme" is any less cringeworthy than buying football boots in the 1940s with design models such as "Kampf" or "Blitz' from the Dassler brothers. The trainers are so bad I question if they're genuine or a wind up. Does anyone know? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 18 minutes ago, Northboy said: The trainers are so bad I question if they're genuine or a wind up. Does anyone know? I'm leaning towards wind-up - the venn overlap for trainer wearers who give enough of a sh*t about poppies surely isn't large enough to make the production worthwhile? I reckon captain major admiral colonel Tom's walking frame has to be a gag - has to be, right? That there should be any doubt over the veracity of this ridiculous footwear kind of shows what a farce the whole charade is, though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneteaminglasgow Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 Quote PIERS Morgan has said Prince Harry and Meghan turned Remembrance Sunday into a "PR stunt" asking: "Have they no shame?" https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/13143476/piers-morgan-meghan-harry-remembrance-sunday/ I know it’s the Sun and that, but this is some truly outstanding content. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 15 hours ago, J_Stewart said: What’s that? Not had some absolute solid gold poppy rage content to enjoy in a couple of days? Say no more: “A vet family” is just so, so good. I always suspected M&S managers were IRA sympathisers. Good to finally get confirmation. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiG Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 15 hours ago, J_Stewart said: What’s that? Not had some absolute solid gold poppy rage content to enjoy in a couple of days? Say no more: “A vet family” is just so, so good. Every year we get this made up shite about some shop allegedly refusing to sell poppies. It goes viral with all the flag / war shaggers piling in to criticise the store and then it turns out that it's a load of pish. Looking forward to Peter issuing a grovelling apology for his made up guff in the coming days. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 9 minutes ago, RiG said: Looking forward to Peter issuing a grovelling apology for his made up guff in the coming days f**k that he should double down, saying he was in M&S with a soldier who was refused service and spat on by the checkout operator. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsimButtHitsASix Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 43 minutes ago, oneteaminglasgow said: https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/13143476/piers-morgan-meghan-harry-remembrance-sunday/ I know it’s the Sun and that, but this is some truly outstanding content. Millionaire attacks ex squaddie and his mixed race wife on Remembrance Sunday Disgusting 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMMjag Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 9 hours ago, Satoshi said: On November 13th 1999 Scotland played England and there wasn't a poppy on show (on the pitch or bench). What possibly changed between 1999 and now? Well two wars of questionable legality, both of which were unquestionbly abject failures. The US government saw during the Vietnam War how damaging a disconnect between joe public and the soliders could be and implemented a deliberate policy of lionising soldiers to prevent this from reocurring. It benefits them in two ways, first of all it helps prop support for unpopular (and frankly ridiculous) wars whilst providing a comfort blanket for the very worst excesses of the soldiers in question. Between Abu Ghraib, Soldier A and bombing weddings there have been plenty of truly horrific acts, none of which have entered the public consciousness like My Lai has (and even that required whistleblowers). Poppies now literally adorn fighter jets - it's a noble cause b*****dised beyond recongition. Rather than being about remembering the pointless sacrifice of millions of lives during WW1 (and preventing it happening again) it is now explicitly used as a pro military and pro intervention token. And also worth a reminder to it's staunch followers that the poppy commemorates soldiers dying in such ludicrous heists as the Suez Crisis. Not so much as our brave boys protecting freedom - rather a reminder that our government should stop trying to steal other peoples stuff. Lest we forget shite goalkeeping. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirty dingus Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 3 hours ago, Scary Bear said: That Poppy Watch Twitter account makes for some interesting, whilst disturbing, viewing every year around now. I take it that time of understated, quiet reflection in November is well in the past. Get with the future and buy some poppy trainers and a tasteful poppy montage for the car. The big titty 3 w**k guy is a great set of posts. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirty dingus Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 1 hour ago, 101 said: f**k that he should double down, saying he was in M&S with a soldier who was refused service and spat on by the checkout operator. ...wearing a burka 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scary Bear Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 10 minutes ago, dirty dingus said: The big titty 3 w**k guy is a great set of posts. What a seedy man. I was happy to discover Racist Pets on Twitter too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northboy Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 4 hours ago, WhiteRoseKillie said: I'm leaning towards wind-up - the venn overlap for trainer wearers who give enough of a sh*t about poppies surely isn't large enough to make the production worthwhile? I reckon captain major admiral colonel Tom's walking frame has to be a gag - has to be, right? I've just noticed the walking frame which convinces me that at last the Captain Tom pair are a wind up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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