doulikefish Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Bae systems up a couple of points in the stock exchange,war is good for business yipeee 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Bae systems up a couple of points in the stock exchange,war is good for business yipeee Even before the vote was confirmed there would have beeen business analysts in the UK, the US and elsewhere working out how and where they could profit from our involvement. Multinational capitalism, don't you just love it? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooky Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 It's worth pointing out that apparently British air strikes in Iraq the past year haven't killed a single civilian casualty. It's not like we're going to blanket bomb every inch of Syria, it's about targeted IS bases. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A.F.C Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Estimates of the casualties from the conflict in Iraq since 2003 (beginning with the 2003 US invasion of Iraq, and the ensuing occupation and insurgency) have come in many forms, and the accuracy of the information available on different types of Iraq War casualties varies greatly. Various scientific surveys of Iraqi deaths resulting from the first four years of the Iraq War estimated that between 151,000 to over one million Iraqis died as a result of conflict during this time.[1] A later study, published in 2011, estimated that approximately 500,000 Iraqis had died as a result of the conflict since the invasion.[2] Counts of deaths reported in newspapers collated by projects like the Iraq Body Count project found 174,000 Iraqis reported killed between 2003 and 2013, with between 112,000-123,000 of those killed being civilian noncombatants. Death cult. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 After the initial glee I feel nothing. Apparently the current round of strikes on Iraq which started last year havent killed a single civilian and the plan is to extend that into Syria. Like I say, I'm chuffed that *someone* is going to pay the price for the Paris attacks If we were attacked we would expect the French to get involved in bombing someone so it's only fair that we reciprocate that. I just hope they manage to extend the areas where IS are operating and target militants only. Killing civilians helps no one 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevthedee Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Estimates of the casualties from the conflict in Iraq since 2003 (beginning with the 2003 US invasion of Iraq, and the ensuing occupation and insurgency) have come in many forms, and the accuracy of the information available on different types of Iraq War casualties varies greatly. Various scientific surveys of Iraqi deaths resulting from the first four years of the Iraq War estimated that between 151,000 to over one million Iraqis died as a result of conflict during this time.[1] A later study, published in 2011, estimated that approximately 500,000 Iraqis had died as a result of the conflict since the invasion.[2] Counts of deaths reported in newspapers collated by projects like the Iraq Body Count project found 174,000 Iraqis reported killed between 2003 and 2013, with between 112,000-123,000 of those killed being civilian noncombatants. Death cult. Death cult=isis 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 It's worth pointing out that apparently British air strikes in Iraq the past year haven't killed a single civilian casualty. It's not like we're going to blanket bomb every inch of Syria, it's about targeted IS bases. Correct. I think geographies play a big part in this; it's not as if they are targeting civilian areas. As has been shown in Iraq, it's possible to target IS over the long term without harming residents. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Estimates of the casualties from the conflict in Iraq since 2003 (beginning with the 2003 US invasion of Iraq, and the ensuing occupation and insurgency) have come in many forms, and the accuracy of the information available on different types of Iraq War casualties varies greatly. Various scientific surveys of Iraqi deaths resulting from the first four years of the Iraq War estimated that between 151,000 to over one million Iraqis died as a result of conflict during this time.[1] A later study, published in 2011, estimated that approximately 500,000 Iraqis had died as a result of the conflict since the invasion.[2] Counts of deaths reported in newspapers collated by projects like the Iraq Body Count project found 174,000 Iraqis reported killed between 2003 and 2013, with between 112,000-123,000 of those killed being civilian noncombatants. Death cult. Wikipedia? Really? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A.F.C Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 So nobody died from the two Iraq wars and years of sanctions etc? I would guess it's a couple like. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sloop John B Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 It seems to be only when the military's involved where we have to do 'something' regardless of the potential outcome and facts. Bombing a few hillsides isn't going to make us safer. Actually trying to prevent social discontent and including young Muslim men in society might make a difference but that flies in the face of the Conservatives programme of being arseholes to just about everyone. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antiochas III Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Wikipedia? Really? They have 2 sources in that small post from Wikipedia. Do you reject either, or both? If not then what's wrong with Wikipedia 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenconner Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 i hate watching wars from a restricted view seat. Get this sorted Sky and BBC. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 (edited) It's worth pointing out that apparently British air strikes in Iraq the past year haven't killed a single civilian casualty. It's not like we're going to blanket bomb every inch of Syria, it's about targeted IS bases. Its also worth pointing out that over 75% of the planes dont drop there payload due to a lack of targets http://www.forbes.com/sites/richardminiter/2015/06/01/why-we-arent-bombing-isis/ Edited December 3, 2015 by doulikefish 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScotSquid Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 It seems to be only when the military's involved where we have to do 'something' regardless of the potential outcome and facts. Bombing a few hillsides isn't going to make us safer. Actually trying to prevent social discontent and including young Muslim men in society might make a difference but that flies in the face of the Conservatives programme of being arseholes to just about everyone. Oh so its our fault misogynist lunatics believing in sky fairies and despising Western culture exist. Good to know. What do you suggest? Inviting known Islamist fanatics to the bingo? Maybe take them to the pub? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenconner Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 What do you suggest? Inviting known Islamist fanatics to the bingo? Maybe take them to the pub? You could start with a Crimbo card. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Bombing oil fields. Looks like something was achieved at the Paris climate change talks. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFC90 Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Why didn't we carpet bomb Belfast when the IRA were actually SUCCEEDING in attacking brits on British soil ? Oh that's right, the citizens of Belfast are the correct colour. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 (edited) Heres the "great" statesman only 17 days ago,methinks he has his eyes on a prize of some sorts http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/hilary-benn-shadow-foreign-secretary-says-labour-wont-back-air-strikes-on-syria-a6734651.html Edited December 3, 2015 by doulikefish 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mastermind Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 It seems to be only when the military's involved where we have to do 'something' regardless of the potential outcome and facts. Bombing a few hillsides isn't going to make us safer. Actually trying to prevent social discontent and including young Muslim men in society might make a difference but that flies in the face of the Conservatives programme of being arseholes to just about everyone. Lol -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Why didn't we carpet bomb Belfast when the IRA were actually SUCCEEDING in attacking brits on British soil ? Oh that's right, the citizens of Belfast are the correct colour. You are the only person trying to turn this into a race debate. If anything religion is more important. Although we had boots on the ground in Ireland so your point, not that you ever had one, is rendered invalid 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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