Gaz Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 1 minute ago, D'Jaffo said: Hope the sausage rolls he stole scalded his tongue. Have you ever had a sausage roll from Greggs? Absolutely no chance of that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D'Jaffo Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 2 minutes ago, Gaz said: Have you ever had a sausage roll from Greggs? Absolutely no chance of that. Think I last entered a Greggs establishment back in 2017, maybe? In either case, if it doesn’t burn him it might choke him. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTee Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 If the migrant can score 20 goals in a season, then living in a 5 million pound mansion and earning 100k a week is perfectly acceptable. The more the merrier. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camer0n_mcd Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 I was always well aware that England* had a lot of thick racist c***s but the level of racism proudly displayed by hundreds of people in broad daylight has been absolutely sickening. So depressing that there are so many people that genuinely think stuff like this is acceptable, how do you fix this problem? f**k knows but it certainly won't go away overnight. *So do we 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richey Edwards Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 5 minutes ago, camer0n_mcd said: , how do you fix this problem? Tear gas, rubber bullets, water cannons, batons... Or is that too "authoritarian"? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camer0n_mcd Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 Just now, Richey Edwards said: Tear gas, rubber bullets, water cannons, batons... Short term, aye. But long term it'd only make them feel more justified that they're the 'silent majority being oppressed by the establishment'. Tens of thousands of people (if not more) have been radicalised into thinking that burning hotels and barricading the exits to said hotels is okay and a concerning amount of young folk that think that Reform/Farage/Robinson are the good guys. That problem (IMO) isn't solved by kicking f**k out of them. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richey Edwards Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 Just now, camer0n_mcd said: Short term, aye. But long term it'd only make them feel more justified that they're the 'silent majority being oppressed by the establishment'. Tens of thousands of people (if not more) have been radicalised into thinking that burning hotels and barricading the exits to said hotels is okay and a concerning amount of young folk that think that Reform/Farage/Robinson are the good guys. That problem (IMO) isn't solved by kicking f**k out of them. Maybe not, but it would be satisfying. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camer0n_mcd Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 12 minutes ago, Richey Edwards said: Maybe not, but it would be satisfying. Hahaha, true 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpetmonster Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 Oh, at least he got a warning, that’s not so bad then 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocketman Posted August 5 Share Posted August 5 5 hours ago, D'Jaffo said: Think I last entered a Greggs establishment back in 2017, maybe? Nice to see another Aulds man. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hauzen Posted August 5 Share Posted August 5 7 hours ago, Jambomo said: Do people really go on holiday to Tamworth? I've stayed at that Holiday Inn before, it's about 10 minutes from Drayton Manor theme park which has Thomas The Tank Engine Land amongst many other attractions. You've never been?! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted August 5 Share Posted August 5 Presumably this week the rioters will target some white migrant workers to show that it’s really about immigration. Right? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throbber Posted August 5 Share Posted August 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted August 5 Share Posted August 5 (edited) 8 hours ago, camer0n_mcd said: Short term, aye. But long term it'd only make them feel more justified that they're the 'silent majority being oppressed by the establishment'. Tens of thousands of people (if not more) have been radicalised into thinking that burning hotels and barricading the exits to said hotels is okay and a concerning amount of young folk that think that Reform/Farage/Robinson are the good guys. That problem (IMO) isn't solved by kicking f**k out of them. I don't think the kids breaking into Lush and Greggs had any notion of being a silent majority. I've no doubt there are some people pulling strings and have created the conditions that precipitate riots, but the one on the telly are not activists, they're opportunists. Edited August 5 by Sergeant Wilson 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busta Nut Posted August 5 Share Posted August 5 9 hours ago, dirty dingus said: Where's the polis in all these videos? Standing to the side watching mostly. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted August 5 Share Posted August 5 “Wake up babe, the new racist fascist c**t getting bitten by a police dog just dropped” 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunning1874 Posted August 5 Share Posted August 5 While the media's insistence on referring to "protests" and "protesters" is an abject failure on their part, I don't think "riots" goes far enough either. While some of it has also involved general looting, these are pogroms targeting non-white and especially Muslim communities that have seen multiple attempted murders. Pretending it's not that serious or minimising the explicitly racist character of it by talking about "legitimate concerns" or similar tropes is complicity. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted August 5 Share Posted August 5 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Sergeant Wilson said: I've no doubt there are some people pulling strings and have created the conditions that precipitate riots, but the one on the telly are not activists, they're opportunists. Don't agree with this. Some of the youngest ones involved perhaps, but many of them are angry men that genuinely hold racist viewpoints and also have a fascination with violence. They've been radicalised by things they see online and the Southport stabbing has triggered them into rioting and, in some cases, arson and attempted murder. We can try and rationalise it as them being hoodwinked by bad actors on Twitter etc all we want, and that might well have a large element of truth behind it, but they hold these views genuinely and will be espousing/sharing them on a daily basis. Eventually this spills over into real life, with potentially horrific consequences. What we've had so far is bad enough but there is potential for it to escalate - I don't think they are "done" yet and as with anything, there is a high risk of retribution leading to a further cycle of violence. I have no idea how we try and deradicalise these men, but they have shown they pose a substantial threat to life. I fear we've deluded ourselves that they are all thick-as-shit and therefore incapable of organising themselves effectively to inflict violence in the way that they've done this weekend, which is a big calculation. Edited August 5 by Michael W 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted August 5 Share Posted August 5 6 minutes ago, Michael W said: life. I fear we've deluded ourselves that they are all thick-as-shit and therefore incapable of organising themselves effectively to inflict violence in the way that they've done this weekend, which is a big calculation. It doesnt take a high level of intelligence to organise a group of folk to go out smash windows and set fire to stuff. Not in the age of social media. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salt n Vinegar Posted August 5 Share Posted August 5 1 minute ago, Melanius Mullarkey said: It doesnt take a high level of intelligence to organise a group of folk to go out smash windows and set fire to stuff. Not in the age of social media. But it's the mindset of the participants that's the problem. I'm struggling to think of an issue that could appear on Facebook or anywhere else that would make me think "what I really need to do is meet the guys, drive to another town or city, smash up shops, throw bins and bricks at the polis and set fire to a hotel". 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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