Baxter Parp Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Just now, Whatif said: So responsible drinkers now to be penalised Responsible drinkers don't generally go for White Lightning. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonHMFC Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 3 minutes ago, Whatif said: So responsible drinkers now to be penalised for the minority who cannot control thmselves . Lets now have minimum pricing on everything deemed by the nanny state to be bad for us. Let's start with fast food shops and high sugar drinks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 The ‘irresponsible’ drinkers will just use more of their money they would’ve spent on other things to get pished now. The alkie b*****ds. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuckleMoo Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Isn’t it going to effect the cheap ciders, super strength lagers and the like actually? Or have I misread it? I think that's exactly what they're targeting. It's your cheap, high strength shite. Your premium brands won't be affected as it's already above the minimum priceing 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspect Device Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 (edited) First they came for the smokers, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a smoker. Then they came for the cheap alcohol drinkers, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a cheap alcohol drinker. Then they came for the irn bru drinkers, and I did not speak out— Because I was not an irn bru drinker. Then they came for pie eaters—and there was no one left to speak for me. Edit. FWIW I disagree yet again with the SNP government policy of "punishing" everyone because of a problem with a section of society. I don't want to be controlled by a government. If I want to smoke, drug, drink and eat myself to death I should be free to do it. My only stipulation would be that they tax the 'sin' products enough to cover the NHS bill which will inevitably grow. Edited November 15, 2017 by Suspect Device 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacDuffman Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 All Ciders will increase not just the mad alkie stuff. Magners Cider at £8 for 10x 440ml cans in Asda will rise to £11 - quite an increase. The deal for 18x 440ml cans at £10 will be an even bigger increase. Bloody alkies should just be left to die off. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmothecat2 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Having a quick glance at the spirits in my local shop it will impact all of the own brand spirits, and most of the 'cheapish' spirit options (Smirnoff, Famous Grouse etc) and things like Vermouth (which across the board seems to actually be one of the best unit to expenditure deals available). Might have more of an impact than I first realised.Beer wise most of the on offer mass produced beer will be impacted but most nice beer and full price beer will be the same. Cheap wine will go up a bit but not significantly. It's cheap cider and things like Perry that look like they will see the biggest rise.When is this supposed to be effective? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 23 minutes ago, McQuade said: Don't know what you drink but £14 for a bottle of Whisky is dirt cheap! You can often get a litre of Grouse or Bells for £15 in the supermarkets. Minimum will now be £20 I think. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EH75 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Not sure this will work. Alcoholism is an addiction. Won't said addicts just still buy the same amount of drink but have less money to spend on other stuff such as feeding their kids? And the casual drinkers will just have to spend another couple of quid on their alcohol. I mean, heroin and coke addicts don't stop just because it's expensive. People still smoke despite the astronomical cost to their wallet and their health. What's the difference with alcohol? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A.F.C Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 At the same time can they reduce the prices for sport etc? If this really is about health. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossbill Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 It may work, or it may not. At least now we have the chance to find out one way or the other. We would already know by now if it wasn't for the SWA and their backers in the wider drinks industry. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspect Device Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 2 minutes ago, D.A.F.C said: At the same time can they reduce the prices for sport etc? If this really is about health. Interesting that Iceland are doing better than Scotland just now. I wonder why? Here's a wee feature on the Beeb. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/stories-41973296/how-one-country-persuaded-teens-to-give-up-drink-and-drugs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacDuffman Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 As much as I will slag it off I think its meant to help deter binge drinking. I know a lot of folk drink a lot at home before going out as its cheaper, but this may actually help some pubs which may be close to closing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 I grew up in a single parent household with an alcoholic mother and I'm not sure that this would've stopped the drinking. It probably would've made it even more difficult to keep the lecky on tbh. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 As much as I will slag it off I think its meant to help deter binge drinking. I know a lot of folk drink a lot at home before going out as its cheaper, but this may actually help some pubs which may be close to closing. Nothing will deter binge drinking. Putting the costs up ever so slightly will still make drinking at home much cheaper than drinking in the pub. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspect Device Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Just now, 1320Lichtie said: Nothing will deter binge drinking. Putting the costs up ever so slightly will still make drinking at home much cheaper than drinking in the pub. I would doubt that his will affect pub prices at all. 50p a unit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 I would doubt that his will affect pub prices at all. 50p a unit. I know. But £3.50 a pint is still going to be dearer than buying a crate and drinking at home. Eta: not even sure cost is the main reason behind people drinking at home first before going out. Certainly wasn’t/isn’t for me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted November 15, 2017 Author Share Posted November 15, 2017 58 minutes ago, Suspect Device said: First they came for the smokers, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a smoker. Then they came for the cheap alcohol drinkers, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a cheap alcohol drinker. Then they came for the irn bru drinkers, and I did not speak out— Because I was not an irn bru drinker. Then they came for pie eaters—and there was no one left to speak for me. Edit. FWIW I disagree yet again with the SNP government policy of "punishing" everyone because of a problem with a section of society. I don't want to be controlled by a government. If I want to smoke, drug, drink and eat myself to death I should be free to do it. My only stipulation would be that they tax the 'sin' products enough to cover the NHS bill which will inevitably grow. Totally agree. We should also be allowed to carry semi-automatic weapons like they do in the land of the free. F*ck this idea of encouraging a socially responsible society, that’s what I say. ”You can take by bottle of cheap alcohol when you pry it from my cold dead hands”. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspect Device Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 1 hour ago, Granny Danger said: Totally agree. We should also be allowed to carry semi-automatic weapons like they do in the land of the free. F*ck this idea of encouraging a socially responsible society, that’s what I say. ”You can take by bottle of cheap alcohol when you pry it from my cold dead hands”. That's a strange connection to make. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 2 hours ago, Suspect Device said: My only stipulation would be that they tax the 'sin' products enough to cover the NHS bill which will inevitably grow. Except the "SNP Government" can't raise taxes on any products, sinful or otherwise. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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