mjw Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 Is there any difference in calling it Tory or Westminster. For the majority of my life it's been Tory, red Tory, Tory with Lib Dem bitches or Tory again. Why get hung up on semantics rather than answering the question? Who is to blame and how do we improve poverty levels. Is it even possible? Aye your right.Tories for me.Everything always seems to be worse under that lot. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 16 hours ago, Suspect Device said: That doesn't really explain anything. I'd want to know what figures they're using. The ONS ones. 16 hours ago, Suspect Device said: I assume the ONS are taking all the indirect taxation into account which would explain it better. It would also be the best way of looking at it. 16 hours ago, Suspect Device said: Some indirect taxation is discretionary but by no means all of it. If you're poor, you can choose to avoid tax on alcohol and tobacco for instance. You can't choose to avoid the tax on heating your house. I assume the Office of National Statistics have chosen figures that are comparable rather than just random ones for shits and giggles. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 12 hours ago, welshbairn said: So the SNP have no responsibility for increasing poverty in Scotland? What has the SNP government done that could increase poverty in Scotland? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 9 minutes ago, Baxter Parp said: What has the SNP government done that could increase poverty in Scotland? I was just surprised to see @Jmothecat2 saying that he was joking when he said the SNP were responsible for the increasing poverty. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob the tank Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 I was just surprised to see [mention=72454]Jmothecat2[/mention] saying that he was joking when he said the SNP were responsible for the increasing poverty. As was I 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/information-commissioner-wont-get-cambridge-anayltica-warrant-before-friday_uk_5ab39151e4b0decad047326d Information Commissioner Won't Get Cambridge Analytica Warrant Before Friday High Court judge adjourns application. Stinks to high heaven. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspect Device Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 3 hours ago, Baxter Parp said: The ONS ones. It would also be the best way of looking at it. I assume the Office of National Statistics have chosen figures that are comparable rather than just random ones for shits and giggles. Are you always this facetious? If you're having to make assumptions then the tweet didn't explain it that well. I'd like to know some more facts behind the figures. I agree that taking all taxation into account would be the best way of comparing the burden of taxation but I don't know how they came up with their percentages. It annoys me when two opposing sides use the same facts to back up their positions when it can't possibly be the case. The Tories like to plug away with their mantra that the richest pay the largest portion of the tax burden but are very selective using just income tax. I'm like Joe Friday. I just want the facts. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 1 minute ago, Suspect Device said: Are you always this facetious? If you're having to make assumptions then the tweet didn't explain it that well. You appear to be the only person on this thread or anyone else who has an issue with a fairly straightforward point; that seems instructive as to who has the problem here and it definitely isn't the ONS. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 8 minutes ago, Suspect Device said: Are you always this facetious? Pretty much. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmothecat2 Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 I was just surprised to see [mention=72454]Jmothecat2[/mention] saying that he was joking when he said the SNP were responsible for the increasing poverty. I'm not saying they are completely free of responsibility but I would say the problems largely stem from the Tories. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WILLIEA Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 That's Corbyn sacked Owen Smith for calling for a 2nd EU referendum. He really is an insufferable c*nt. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmothecat2 Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 That's Corbyn sacked Owen Smith for calling for a 2nd EU referendum. He really is an insufferable c*nt. Yep. Absolutely terrible decision. Ironically the SNP are now the biggest party representing Britain's best interests. This is going to be catastrophic to working class people in particular and Labour are allowing it to happen. An utterly disgusting party allowing those who they are supposed to represent to needlessly suffer so their ideology can survive. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmothecat2 Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 More hot water for Corbyn. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 22 minutes ago, Jmothecat2 said: More hot water for Corbyn. Pretty indefensible stuff tbh. Anti-Semitism is such a weirdly discussed issue in Britain with this Count Dankula stuff being an example of that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 Pretty indefensible stuff tbh. Anti-Semitism is such a weirdly discussed issue in Britain with this Count Dankula stuff being an example of that. Does he not even have a verified Twitter account? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 Corbyns statement on this is one of the worst I’ve ever read from a senior political figure. It’s laughable. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, WILLIEA said: That's Corbyn sacked Owen Smith for calling for a 2nd EU referendum. He really is an insufferable c*nt. Mind when the UK nats used to condemn the SNP as a “cult” that didn’t allow for disagreement with the leadership? Looks like Dear Leader Corbyn seems to have taken the mantle of Britain’s personality cult party. Edited March 23, 2018 by Antlion 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 55 minutes ago, ICTChris said: Corbyns statement on this is one of the worst I’ve ever read from a senior political figure. It’s laughable. This? Quote In a statement, a spokesman for Mr Corbyn said: "In 2012, Jeremy was responding to concerns about the removal of public art on grounds of freedom of speech. "However, the mural was offensive, used anti-Semitic imagery, which has no place in our society, and it is right that it was removed." But hours later, Mr Corbyn released another statement, which read: "In 2012 I made a general comment about the removal of public art on grounds of freedom of speech. My comment referred to the destruction of the mural Man at the Crossroads by Diego Rivera on the Rockefeller Center. "That is in no way comparable with the mural in the original post. I sincerely regret that I did not look more closely at the image I was commenting on, the contents of which are deeply disturbing and anti-Semitic. "I wholeheartedly support its removal. "I am opposed to the production of anti-Semitic material of any kind, and the defence of free speech cannot be used as a justification for the promotion of anti-Semitism in any form. That is a view I've always held." Anyone who has any ambition of doing anything in the next 50 years should delete all posts. Any offhand quips should be specifically targeted. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmothecat2 Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 https://www.thejc.com/comment/comment/there-is-only-one-word-for-jeremy-corbyn-1.461313" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 https://www.thejc.com/comment/comment/there-is-only-one-word-for-jeremy-corbyn-1.461313" I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s something else looming around this that’ll end up being dropped next week after everyone’s had their take over the weekend. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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