RedRob72 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 McGrory absolutely demolished there, responding like Harry Enfield’s ‘Teenage Kevin’ character.It isn’t any wonder that many ‘leavers’ are still unconvinced on a re-think of the Vote when you’ve got people like this leading the line?Dismissive, intolerant, irritable and petulant.He’s equally as bad as anyone the Brexit Camp could stump up. They think it’s all about spin positioning or how to frame the argument to convince, frustrate or confuse voters! How about just trying to tell the truth (as best you can) with the available facts for a change. That would be novel. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 McGrory absolutely demolished there, responding like Harry Enfield’s ‘Teenage Kevin’ character.It isn’t any wonder that many ‘leavers’ are still unconvinced on a re-think of the Vote when you’ve got people like this leading the line?Dismissive, intolerant, irritable and petulant.He’s equally as bad as anyone the Brexit Camp could stump up. They think it’s all about spin positioning or how to frame the argument to convince, frustrate or confuse voters! How about just trying to tell the truth (as best you can) with the available facts for a change. That would be novel. How about just respecting the result of a referendum 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Just now, John Lambies Doos said: How about just respecting the result of a referendum Sure, it was an advisory referendum with no force in law so just saying "thanks but no thanks" would give it all the respect it deserved. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 21 minutes ago, John Lambies Doos said: How about just respecting the result of a referendum Cool. No more Scottish independence referendum then. We're in the union. That's it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRob72 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 How about just respecting the result of a referendum I’m fine with respecting the result, I still don’t believe that anyone from either side could have predicted what a complicated mess the decision was going to produce however. As the clock ticks away, negotiations will become more and more time sensitive and rushed (they always are in the end game), the concessions we will inevitably make will leave no-one in the UK satisfied. A 2nd Ref on the final deal seems sensible to me, if we reject it then I guess we’ll have to find a third way, meaning we revoke the Article 50 ‘trigger’, If indeed that’s possible? Uncharted waters yes, but surely not as dangerous as blindly diving over the precipice? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bully Wee Villa Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 How about just respecting the result of a referendum What was the result of the Referendum on whether we should stay in the Single Market? I must have been on holiday and missed it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crùbag Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Yon Toby Young... loads of us on here would be sacked for his filth. Little posh boys live charmed lives sometimes. https://evolvepolitics.com/new-tory-university-tsar-toby-young-joked-about-masturbating-over-starving-comic-relief-kids/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 What was the result of the Referendum on whether we should stay in the Single Market? I must have been on holiday and missed it. Leave won 52 48 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bully Wee Villa Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 On the Single Market referendum? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Don't think JLD has anything to add other than "leave won". Also tried to suggest that voters knew what they were voting for, which is an unbelievably stupid statement. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 On the Single Market referendum? The single market is one of the corner stones of the EU. Leave the EU and you leave the Single Market.... unless you want to pay over the odds to access it.I'm still very annoyed about the UK leaving the EU but voting to leave means leaving the SM by default. There is no way the other 27EU countries would allow UK to stay... it would cause mass EU defection 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Don't think JLD has anything to add other than "leave won". Also tried to suggest that voters knew what they were voting for, which is an unbelievably stupid statement. I most certainly did, I guess stupid people didn't eh Randy 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bully Wee Villa Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 The single market is one of the corner stones of the EU. Leave the EU and you leave the Single Market.... unless you want to pay over the odds to access it.I'm still very annoyed about the UK leaving the EU but voting to leave means leaving the SM by default. There is no way the other 27EU countries would allow UK to stay... it would cause mass EU defection That's not what either side said. Nobody in Britain has ever voted to leave the Single Market. Such a momentous change should be put to a referendum. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 As much as I agree with your political leanings I really don't accept there should be another referendum. The UK voted to leave the EU... regardless of daft promises (happens every election) it was obvious that this means leaving Single Market(labour and goods), Customs Union and EU Legislation. If this doesn't happen then democracy has lost.A referendum on the terms of leaving not on the principle of leaving (however crooked or flawed it was). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Leave won 52 48Tell me where it mentioned the Single Market in the EU Referendum? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 3 hours ago, John Lambies Doos said: How about just respecting the result of a referendum We had a referendum in 1975, why don't we respect that one? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Tell me where it mentioned the Single Market in the EU Referendum? Please tell me a country outside the EU that has access to the Single Market without having to pay for it and allow freedom of movement(labour) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Please tell me a country outside the EU that has access to the Single Market without having to pay for it and allow freedom of movement(labour) You didn't answer the question. And who said anything about not paying for the Single Market whilst being outside? Iceland, Liechtenstein, Norway and Switzerland all have access to the single market yet are not EU members. Georgia, Moldova and Ukraine also have access to the Single Market in certain sectors. Turkey has free movement of goods through membership of the EU Customs Union. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Still ignoring the idea of just accepting other referendums I see. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 You didn't answer the question. And who said anything about not paying for the Single Market whilst being outside? Iceland, Liechtenstein, Norway and Switzerland all have access to the single market yet are not EU members. Georgia, Moldova and Ukraine also have access to the Single Market in certain sectors. Turkey has free movement of goods through membership of the EU Customs Union. And they pay for access. No country outwith the EU has access to the SM unless they pay for it. Leaving the EU meant leaving the SM... or paying for access to it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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