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Get him straight in the team, once the League Cup final celebrations have calmed down get him into hospital and give his knee a flush out, recuperate in Tenerife with the boys, back to it in February for the Cup run. 

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Get him straight in the team, once the League Cup final celebrations have calmed down get him into hospital and give his knee a flush out, recuperate in Tenerife with the boys, back to it in February for the Cup run. 
Ever thought about football management as a career mate?
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1 hour ago, Romeo said:

Bullet dodged, Motherwell will have to seek for a lot less than the fee they wanted.

Lucky escape for us. Motherwell probably knew about this but kept quiet.

Poor from them.

 

38 minutes ago, Romeo said:

All those English clubs will be back in for him then......

 

32 minutes ago, Romeo said:
34 minutes ago, ropy said:
Get him straight in the team, once the League Cup final celebrations have calmed down get him into hospital and give his knee a flush out, recuperate in Tenerife with the boys, back to it in February for the Cup run. 

Ever thought about football management as a career mate?

 

15 minutes ago, wastecoatwilly said:

Where did that £3m go I'm sure it was hear a minute ago?

You hate to see this, posters not waving, but drowning.

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1 hour ago, Iain said:

Not sure I understand the outrage about the revised proposal. From a third party point of view it looks like Celtic offered to share the risk (including paying for treatment and rehab) following the diagnosis rather than back out of the deal completely, but Motherwell preferred to take on all of the risk as a point of principle? Motherwell now need a lot of things to go right (surgery, rehab, player's subsequent physical and mental condition, player's form, level of interest from other clubs) just to get back to the same position they were in before. It seems a bold gambit with extremely limited upside.

If you know anything about Motherwell at all is that they will always back injured players. Even if their contract ran out they would be offered another contract to cover their return to fitness. Motherwell want the players to know that they will be supported fully, I don't see that as an issue in the slightest if anything it should be applauded.

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1 hour ago, Romeo said:

Bullet dodged, Motherwell will have to seek for a lot less than the fee they wanted.

Lucky escape for us. Motherwell probably knew about this but kept quiet.

Poor from them.

Lol and here it comes, what complete and utter bullshit. Deluded is the only description for your comments. The Romeo propaganda machine in full swing. i think i know where you get your inspiration from.......

iraq denial baghdad GIFs

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2 hours ago, WellView said:

Are you saying - Celtic offered a loan-to-buy deal because they wanted a look at him before committing to the transfer?

Who'd have thought, eh? 

( by the way, I hear the loan fee was £500,000 deductible from the transfer if it went through, non-refundable as always if not. Imagine teams paying loans fees, amazing, eh? )

............

Well done Burrows. And all those wanks that threatened to boycott Fir Park if the Celtic move went through/if the club folded, send some money to the Well Society by way of apology, that's the least you can do. 

Celtic wanted the loan so Motherwell's insurers not Celtic's would have to pay out. 

By the way, still waiting for one, if not both Leitch boys to hit the highs of football greatness - how's it coming along?  

2 hours ago, Melanius Mullarkey said:

The only difference is Motherwell dealing with the rehab cost. All the other stuff is a risk regardless of where he is. 

Motherwell would have that cost anyway.  

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5 hours ago, Ron Aldo said:

Is it weird that I'm disappointed he's staying?

All that this means is that we have a player who probably doesn't want to be here, we'll have a similar situation in a few months / year with us trying to sell him to the highest bidder - will we even get similar bids if he doesn't hit the same heights or teams have concerns over his injury?

I appreciate an injury can't be helped but, personally, I would rather we had the £3 million quid in the bank and were able to move on with building a team for next season.

I am a bit like this to be honest, then I think of Turnbull coming back and running Scottish fitba for the last 3 months of the year.

 

Seeing a lot of folk mention the timescale he will be out. i think it's gonna be a lot longer than folk think.

 

Celtic fans are anpther breed. Guys I grew up with and are generally ok when discussing fitba got really defensive when celtic's twitter/media shitshow was discussed. Then there is the two wallopers who lived in here for the last two weeks.

 

I got banned from twitter for a week and I am beeling that I can't go on and reply to some of the jobbers I see tweet.

 

 

More DT, let's see if we sign anyone else while in Belfast. If not, we move on

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Not sure I share Motherwell fans' optimism here.

Yes,  the whole thing is funny from a pointing and laughing at Celtic outsider's point of view, but there are no guarantees here at all.

The poor lad has missed out on a financially life changing move. Granted, it could well come around again, even in the next few days if a team down south were to gamble despite the minor op.

But he might not recover the form he had. It's not as if he did it over a long period of time and has sustained form at this level.  I think back to Keigan Parker for us, as a 17-18 year old, he scored 9 Premiership goals by christmas in one of his first seasons, and everyone was raving about him. He never reached those dizzy heights again.  Every club in the country will have an example of a player being the next big thing because of an outstanding period, only for them to fizzle away and have average careers with no big fees involved.

Yes Motherwell fans are going to say Turnbull is different, but only time will tell.

He might well end up going for more, but there is also a chance they never see a fee close to £3m for him again. 

 

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Tbh, it's less optimism with me and more a bit of relief that the whole thing seems to have been put on pause. The entire situation had reached a point where it had descended to legitimate farce and has pretty much dominated our entire pre-season. We're still 3 starting players short in our first XI but almost all our energy seems to have been directed towards managing this absolute shitshow.

Reading this Football Scotland piece it sounds like it's Motherwell who collapsed the deal which going back to @Casagolda's post earlier today is exactly what needed to happen if only to kill the relentless speculation that's been going on for the past month. It had reached the point of tedium that I was ready to cave in my skull with a brick at even the vaguest mention of the saga.

It seems that Motherwell got a second opinion from an independent specialist and there is consensus that he does indeed need the "preventative surgery" despite the player himself having been completely unaware there was an issue. It's shite for him but it's not like Celtic have taken a sharpie to an MRI and faked something. Whether Norwich would have made as much of an issue had they noticed it who knows but the actual point of having medicals is to catch stuff like this and allow the buying club to make a judgement call.

In that respect the deal on the table went from £3m+extras+ sell on % to "We'll take him on loan for a season and maybe sign him, no guarantees though lads". If Celtic decided they didn't fancy him then they pack him up and ship him back to Fir Park leaving him with a year on his deal. Also, presumably he wouldn't see that much heralded "magnificent" salary if he's still contracted as a Motherwell player and we sure as f**k aren't paying his £20k p/w.

All in all it's a very different proposition to what was agreed and Motherwell had every right to bin it and re-evaluate their position without the clock running and Celtic putting on a heavy lean.

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