Busta Nut Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 There is usually always a few people raging no one from the youth has made regular appearances with new managers. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desp Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 Alexander had one job this season. Keep us up. He's pretty much done that (hopefully confirmed after Wednesday). Other than that, any judgement should be on hold until next season when he can put on his own stamp on things and get the vast majority of these charlatans to f**k. I understand some are concerned at seeing him giving the likes of Mugabi & Crawford an extra year. I get that, but as I've said previously we might see one or two being kept for another year due the circumstances in the world just now. As long as these guys are there to supplement the squad, I don't have any massive issues despite not rating either player mentioned. However, it we get into August and we have a central defensive partnership of Mugabi & Lamie, along with a midfield three of O'Hara, Crawford and Donnelly, serious questions of the managers' judgement will need to be asked. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, RostokMcSpoons said: I tend to steer clear, has an element there taken against him (already)? I think Alexander has done a top notch job given some of the players he's had to contend with, and while he's occasionally made some odd choices in team selection and subs, generally speaking I think he's made the best of what he's got. He also comes across as honest and committed during the interviews. There a gazillion people I'd punt from the club before I got to him. Also... those stats make the quarter final look like a real toss-up between the teams. At least all the players should be able to muster some motivation for a cup game against a 'big' club It definitely feels like there's an element of frustration/suspicion for some but really there are just quite a few weird takes eg: one boy comparing him to Baraclough (although the same guy seems to think we played a midfield 4 last season and can't understand why we've ditched it - and someone called him out on the Baraclough thing anyway). Others are getting really bent out of shape because Robbie Crawford and Bevis have been given new one year deals. LIke, for me there are legitimate questions in terms of how he sees things going forward, what the Academy policy is etc but that's broad stuff that really isn't a priority when he's been parachuted into a relegation scenario (in the middle of a pandemic) and judging his signings in January (as some are over there) when he was literally just in the door...is just absolutely fucking wild. Edited April 19, 2021 by capt_oats 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
well fan for life Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 I don't mind Mugabi getting another year. Is he a ball playing centre back? Absolutely not. Is he a serviceable centre back when asked to just heider things away to f**k? Aye. Crawford is probably fine for back up but I do not want to see him be our go to holding midfielder. He's alright at tackling folk but he's total dugmeat in possession. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil86 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 Wonder if people are finding it hard to Warm to Alexander due to not being at the games, that must be a thing, lot said for winning a big game and applauding the manager at the end. fwiw, I think he has done well, also a fan of the play well, play next week approach. one thing I can't wait to see the back of is a midfield three consisting of Campbell, Maguire and Crawford. A midfield with three of the exact same players. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
well fan for life Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 Just now, Neil86 said: one thing I can't wait to see the back of is a midfield three consisting of Campbell, Maguire and Crawford. A midfield with three of the exact same players. Has there ever been more sideways/backwards passes from midfielders? Not since Stuart Carswell imo. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YassinMoutaouakil Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 1 hour ago, capt_oats said: Writing this before Accies beat us (again) but I found myself drawn into actually reading some of the wild takes and DOOM on Steelmen last night rather than skimming and having a wee laugh as I usually do when I dip in there but genuinely surprised myself when I clocked our results/form over the past while; We've only lost 1 of our last 7 (in all competitions) and 1 of our last 5 in the league - it doesn't feel like it eh? Turns out we're 5th in the form table over the past 6, 10 and 12 matches...who knew?! Clearly that doesn't necessarily mean we're playing well but it makes some of the oddball stuff in the 'Graham Alexander' thread look a bit missing the point. Main takeaway from this is that we don't really have anything to fear from Hibs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 Just now, YassinMoutaouakil said: Main takeaway from this is that we don't really have anything to fear from Hibs. My posts are layered Yassin. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmericanFan Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 2 hours ago, capt_oats said: Writing this before Accies beat us (again) but I found myself drawn into actually reading some of the wild takes and DOOM on Steelmen last night rather than skimming and having a wee laugh as I usually do when I dip in there but genuinely surprised myself when I clocked our results/form over the past while; We've only lost 1 of our last 7 (in all competitions) and 1 of our last 5 in the league - it doesn't feel like it eh? Turns out we're 5th in the form table over the past 6, 10 and 12 matches...who knew?! Clearly that doesn't necessarily mean we're playing well but it makes some of the oddball stuff in the 'Graham Alexander' thread look a bit missing the point. I mentioned this a couple weeks back, but if Well had done anything against Hamilton instead of being complete ass in those three matches it would have gone into the final match with a shot at top 6. Strange how two matches can basically change the look of the entire season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
well fan for life Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, AmericanFan said: I mentioned this a couple weeks back, but if Well had done anything against Hamilton instead of being complete ass in those three matches it would have gone into the final match with a shot at top 6. Strange how two matches can basically change the look of the entire season. We are literally responsible for a third of all of Accies points this season. Every time we play them we are absolutely and utterly shite. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmericanFan Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 1 minute ago, well fan for life said: We are literally responsible for a third of all of Accies points this season. Every time we play them we are absolutely and utterly shite. I think the Chapman match could be something that's remembered for years. That was just horrific goalkeeping that is still mind-boggling could actually happen in a professional match. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ropy Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, well fan for life said: We are literally responsible for a third of all of Accies points this season. Every time we play them we are absolutely and utterly shite. We have nothing to lose, use it as a trial match, get all the young ones on and anyone else that needs ‘minutes’. What is the worst that can happen, concede 4? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
well fan for life Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 Just now, AmericanFan said: I think the Chapman match could be something that's remembered for years. That was just horrific goalkeeping that is still mind-boggling could actually happen in a professional match. Fair play to him because Gunnar Neilsen's now moved to the third worst keeper I've ever seen at Motherwell. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ropy Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 1 minute ago, AmericanFan said: I think the Chapman match could be something that's remembered for years. That was just horrific goalkeeping that is still mind-boggling could actually happen in a professional match. My post above does not stretch to a return for Chapman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Aldo Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 The Accies games sum up our season and this team as a whole. With no disrespect to Accies, most teams in the league are expected to beat them. Its fine for pundits, fans etc. to think like that but becomes a serious problem when players adopt the same attitude.I don't think it's a coincidence that in games where nothing has been expected of us we've generally given a good account of ourselves. In games against Accies, the 4-1 v Killie and the cup game against Morton we've obviously just expected to turn up and turned in some shocking performances as a result. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swello Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 25 minutes ago, AmericanFan said: I mentioned this a couple weeks back, but if Well had done anything against Hamilton instead of being complete ass in those three matches it would have gone into the final match with a shot at top 6. Strange how two matches can basically change the look of the entire season. Wednesday night will be when we finally take them to the woodshed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, AmericanFan said: I mentioned this a couple weeks back, but if Well had done anything against Hamilton instead of being complete ass in those three matches it would have gone into the final match with a shot at top 6. Strange how two matches can basically change the look of the entire season. Aye, that's why it feels a bit weird to see people getting bent out of shape over on the other forum at the moment and talking about this as "THE WORST MOTHERWELL SIDE I CAN REMEMBER IN 30 YEARS!!!". One of the most dislikable...sure. I'd 100% agree on one of the most underperforming but the worst in 30 years...hmmmmm. You've got folk giving it "wE sHouLd bE cOmpETinG fOr tOp 6!!!!" - going into Game 33 we were 4 points off St Mirren in 6th. We've given Accies 9 (NINE) points this season - even if we'd held out for the 1-0s at Tannadice and whatever St Mirren's ground is these days would have put us legitimately in the Top 6 conversation. The fact is that as mediocre a season as we've had the difference between where folk seem to be claiming we should be (challenging for Top 6) and where we were is really down to a handful of points/games. That's not to say we've had a good season (that would be a delusional claim) but it kind of highlights the sort of fine margins you're looking at - especially as we were 11th, joint bottom on points when Alexander got the job. 2 hours ago, Ron Aldo said: The Accies games sum up our season and this team as a whole. With no disrespect to Accies, most teams in the league are expected to beat them. Its fine for pundits, fans etc. to think like that but becomes a serious problem when players adopt the same attitude. I don't think it's a coincidence that in games where nothing has been expected of us we've generally given a good account of ourselves. In games against Accies, the 4-1 v Killie and the cup game against Morton we've obviously just expected to turn up and turned in some shocking performances as a result. And this is why they're one of the most dislikable Motherwell teams of recent years. It feels to me as if there was a hangover from finishing 3rd* last season where a group of players got far too ahead of themselves. Edited April 19, 2021 by capt_oats 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
well fan for life Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 Just now, capt_oats said: It feels to me as if there was a hangover from finishing 3rd* last season where a group of players got far too ahead of themselves. No idea who you're on bout m9. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazylegsjoe_mfc Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 9 minutes ago, capt_oats said: .It feels to me as if there was a hangover from finishing 3rd* last season where a group of players got far too ahead of themselves. I'd agree with that. Last season, Gallagher, Polworth and Long were among our most productive performers. There's a massive drop off in performances and attitude from that trio alone this season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YassinMoutaouakil Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 (edited) The only way I can think of rectifying the likeability problem is by spending whatever's left of the Turnbull money on reuniting Ciftci, Bigi and Kipre Edited April 19, 2021 by YassinMoutaouakil 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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