Kyle Posted January 4, 2023 Author Share Posted January 4, 2023 On 27/12/2022 at 14:53, Kyle said: Goalkeepers Remi Matthews - 2023 - on loan from Crystal Palace Elliot Parish - 2023 Ross Sinclair - 2024 - on loan at Montrose Jack Wills - 2024 Defenders/wing backs James Brown - 2023 Drey Wright - 2024 Ryan McGowan - 2024 Alex Mitchell - 2023 - on loan from Millwall Liam Gordon - 2024 John Mahon -2024 Andy Considine- 2024 Callum Booth - 2024 Tony Gallacher - 2024 Adam Montgomery - January 2023 - on loan from Celtic Midfielders/wingers David Wotherspoon - 2023 Max Kucheriavyi - 2025 Murray Davidson - 2023 Charlie Gilmour -2023 - on loan at Cove Rangers Daniel Phillips - 2024 Cammy McPherson - 2024 Ali Crawford -2024 Melker Hallberg - 2023 Cammy Ballantyne - 2024 Alex Ferguson - 2023 - on loan at East Fife Michael O’Halloran- 2023 Connor McLennan - 2023 - on loan from Aberdeen Graham Carey - 2024 Jamie Murphy - 2023 + 1 Attackers Stevie May - 2023 Chris Kane - 2023 Nicky Clark - 2025 Eetu Vertainen - 2023 + 1 - on loan at Linfield Theo Bair - 2024 Taylor Steven - 2023 (?) - on loan at East Fife think this is still correct, thought it would be worth putting the list up going into January. So bloated and so much shite. Honestly can’t fathom how we’re not bottom, never mind a point off third. Updated with Kucheriavyi’s new contract and Ballantyne returning to the club. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizfit Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 Why do I get the feeling we’re ending the season with Ross Sinclair in goals? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankChickens1 Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 3 minutes ago, mizfit said: Why do I get the feeling we’re ending the season with Ross Sinclair in goals? Matthews has been very decent but isn't it about time to see Sinclair in goals anyway? As long as it isnt Parish -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJFCtheTeamForMe Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 (edited) Sinclair isn't going to end up in goal. Davidson generally doesn't take risks throwing young players in. Generally, he doesn't play them at all. If Remi goes, Parish without doubt in my eyes be playing until we find another goalkeeper. Sinclair would be recalled but not to play. If they signed a replacement he'd return to his loan again as well. It's more than likely I imagine they have plans for him to be out on loan again next season at a level higher than he is now. Can't see Davidson going from him playing in League 1 to our first choice. If it goes wrong as well, it could be something he doesn't come back from. Jack Hamilton style. He'll be made to bide his time, like Clark was. Edited January 5, 2023 by SJFCtheTeamForMe 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 26 minutes ago, SJFCtheTeamForMe said: Sinclair isn't going to end up in goal. Davidson generally doesn't take risks throwing young players in. Unless theyre on loan, for some reason. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingermunkie Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 33 minutes ago, SJFCtheTeamForMe said: It's more than likely I imagine they have plans for him to be out on loan again next season at a level higher than he is now. This is what we should be doing, but under Davidson this has been horribly mismanaged for all our younger players. Players just keep going back to the same clubs, there’s no sense of actual progression. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJFCtheTeamForMe Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 11 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: Unless theyre on loan, for some reason. "His brother plays in the Premier League in England, so he must be good as well?" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLIS Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 9 minutes ago, SJFCtheTeamForMe said: "His brother plays in the Premier League in England, so he must be good as well?" Ah yes, straight from the Martindale playbook of last season The name Chukwuemeka will haunt me for the rest of my days, what a useless player he was 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJFCtheTeamForMe Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 43 minutes ago, ATLIS said: Ah yes, straight from the Martindale playbook of last season The name Chukwuemeka will haunt me for the rest of my days, what a useless player he was I raise you Lars Dendoncker. Brother of ex Wolves and current Villa player Leander Dendoncker. Many international caps for Belgium. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, SJFCtheTeamForMe said: I raise you Lars Dendoncker. Brother of ex Wolves and current Villa player Leander Dendoncker. Many international caps for Belgium. Been without a club since the Summer as he was diagnosed with myocarditis, interestingly enough. A shame if it ends his career but zero clue if these things can be resolved/played with or not. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJFCtheTeamForMe Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 15 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: Been without a club since the Summer as he was diagnosed with myocarditis, interestingly enough. A shame if it ends his career but zero clue if these things can be resolved/played with or not. Not many clubs would touch him with that. Didn't know he'd had a health scare. Definitely a shame 🫤 Based on what we seen, his career wasn't likely to be at Saints type level but could see him still playing at a decent level. Could see him being solid at League 1 standard somewhere. Lower tier in Belgium maybe! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizfit Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 32 minutes ago, SJFCtheTeamForMe said: Not many clubs would touch him with that. Didn't know he'd had a health scare. Definitely a shame 🫤 Based on what we seen, his career wasn't likely to be at Saints type level but could see him still playing at a decent level. Could see him being solid at League 1 standard somewhere. Lower tier in Belgium maybe! Felt he was lightweight but would come good if given a chance. Felt he was very unlucky to be sent back, would’ve liked him to hang around. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 4 hours ago, SJFCtheTeamForMe said: If Remi goes, Parish without doubt in my eyes be playing until we find another goalkeeper. Someone on WAP now saying Parish has been offered a coaching role elsewhere. Scenes when both Matthews and Parish leave this month. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJFCtheTeamForMe Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 4 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: Someone on WAP now saying Parish has been offered a coaching role elsewhere. Scenes when both Matthews and Parish leave this month. You know what makes it funnier. Sinclair would be suspended too He was sent off in Montrose's last game 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radford Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 2 hours ago, RandomGuy. said: Someone on WAP now saying Parish has been offered a coaching role elsewhere. Who says Xmas can't come late. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizfit Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 2 hours ago, RandomGuy. said: Someone on WAP now saying Parish has been offered a coaching role elsewhere. Scenes when both Matthews and Parish leave this month. I mean, it’s highly unlikely Matthews will be recalled as Palace have 3 other keepers. although, I am sniggering at the thought of Luncarty being asked to give back their 17 year old goalkeeper to sit on the bench while Jack Wills makes an unexpected debut against Livingston. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJFCtheTeamForMe Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 (edited) https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/10017918/inside-rangers-ticket-talks-st-johnstone-fan-warned-backlash?utm_source=native_share&utm_medium=sharebar_native&utm_campaign=sharebaramp The club told the FCU about their plans and they warned them about the reaction that would follow. They plowed ahead. I can be quite critical at the best of times but there seems to be a massive disconnect between what the club claim they want to be to be in terms of a community club versus how they actually behave. It's not the club doing the great stuff that the St Johnstone in the community are doing (they really do seem to care) Am I the only one questioning some of the gestures done by the club. Things like visiting elderly or struggling fans during covid for example. Were those things happening because they genuinely care or because they seen is as the perfect opportunity for some good PR? 🫤 You don't take action like they have in this instance if there was real held respect for the fans. Does seem like we're looked upon as a means to generate income above all else. Edited January 5, 2023 by SJFCtheTeamForMe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 8 hours ago, SJFCtheTeamForMe said: Does seem like we're looked upon as a means to generate income above all else. Aye, the lack of response is dreadful. The 3 stands thing is bad but theyve done that before to a mixed response, with some even preferring to be in one stand all together, so you can understand that decision to a degree. The pricing you could call a mistake if you want, trying to maximise their income but not realising how strongly fans would feel about it. But to then just completely ignore a fan backlash, which is impossible for them to miss, to even just say you got it wrong and/or explain your reasoning. Thats dreadful and makes fans feel like nothing more than customers. Football clubs need fans to have an emotional attachment to them, otherwise the stark reality of throwing ~£20+ away to sit in the cold for 2 hours watching people kick a ball about will hit and people will realise theres better things to do. Acting the way they are is just going to disillusion people, people who will do something else when the Rangers game is on and maybe find they quite like it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJFCtheTeamForMe Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, RandomGuy. said: Aye, the lack of response is dreadful. The 3 stands thing is bad but theyve done that before to a mixed response, with some even preferring to be in one stand all together, so you can understand that decision to a degree. The pricing you could call a mistake if you want, trying to maximise their income but not realising how strongly fans would feel about it. But to then just completely ignore a fan backlash, which is impossible for them to miss, to even just say you got it wrong and/or explain your reasoning. Thats dreadful and makes fans feel like nothing more than customers. Football clubs need fans to have an emotional attachment to them, otherwise the stark reality of throwing ~£20+ away to sit in the cold for 2 hours watching people kick a ball about will hit and people will realise theres better things to do. Acting the way they are is just going to disillusion people, people who will do something else when the Rangers game is on and maybe find they quite like it. I wait in hope a response will come. Even if it's, okay we hear the feedback as there's probably not much they can do about it now that it's done. But yeah you're right. If you break that emotional connection people, especially after decisions like this fans will drift away and pick and choose when they come along. Also, for those with families or people who are potentially still in education. These prices are utterly unaffordable. Edited January 6, 2023 by SJFCtheTeamForMe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fife Saint Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 The only action they can take is to acknowledge the concerns and provide some clarity on future position. It's too late to do anything about it now, the horse has bolted. I'd love to know the rationale for this and the net retained income generated in reality vs what they modelled when coming to this decision. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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