Forest of Dean Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 12 hours ago, The_Kincardine said: Big worry. Murphy's been really good - even if my arms are thicker than his legs! Hearing potentially a broken toe which makes it touch and go as to whether he will be ready for the 11th. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 2 hours ago, Forest of Dean said: Hearing potentially a broken toe which makes it touch and go as to whether he will be ready for the 11th. A broken toe takes more than a fortnight to heal m8 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyaccie Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 16 hours ago, The_Kincardine said: Tv images must be doing the guy a big favour he looks slim to me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 16 hours ago, Enigma said: How’s Bates getting on? Established himself as a first teamer now and a solid defender, not the best on the ball but does his job. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8MileBU Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 24 minutes ago, bennett said: Established himself as a first teamer now and a solid defender, not the best on the ball but does his job. A good old meat-n-tatties centre half that knows how to defend first and foremost. I think this is a good thing. Too much emphasis on everyone being a ball-playing defender as opposed to a ball-winning defender these days. Get one of each and it’s a good combination IMO. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB 4.2 Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 6 minutes ago, 8MileBU said: A good old meat-n-tatties centre half that knows how to defend first and foremost. I think this is a good thing. Too much emphasis on everyone being a ball-playing defender as opposed to a ball-winning defender these days. Get one of each and it’s a good combination IMO. Agreed. I was drawn to Bates' lack of footballing prowess when he first broke through and dismissed him as a donkey. The Old Firm game was the turning point for me and he's impressed any other time Rangers has been on the tele. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8MileBU Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 1 minute ago, PB 4.2 said: Agreed. I was drawn to Bates' lack of footballing prowess when he first broke through and dismissed him as a donkey. The Old Firm game was the turning point for me and he's impressed any other time Rangers has been on the tele. Despite only coming on as a sub, Bates was by far Rangers best player that day. Even when Alves is fit he’d be struggling to get in ahead of Bates if I was picking the team. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeWereThePeople Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 (edited) The gap between 1st/2nd in various european leagues; England-13 pts Germany-19 pts France-14 pts Holland-7 pts Spain-7 pts Italy- 4 pts Scotland- 6 pts As far as title races go, ours is about as close as it gets, aside from Italy. When you consider that Rangers have been chronic for 75% of the season, and we've suffered from religiously motivated refereeing in a few games, we could and should be much closer. Add that to the fact we currently look unplayable, and I think it's possible. Goss is absolutely strolling it, Docherty is looking like a future Scotland captain, Morelos is thriving since he's had the threat of Cummings replacing him and Windass can't stop scoring. We almost bodied the unwashed at Christmas with half of this current team. Two victories against them and the title will be back at its rightful home. The pressure is all on them. The very worst that should happen is, a Scottish cup win, a single digit loss in the title race, and Aberdeen firmly put back in their diddy box. If Murty achieves all this, the job will be deservedly his. Edited February 28, 2018 by WeWereThePeople 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjc-1988 Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 The gap between 1st/2nd in various european leagues; England-13 pts Germany-19 pts France-14 pts Holland-7 pts Spain-7 pts Italy- 4 pts Scotland- 6 pts As far as title races go, ours is about as close as it gets, aside from Italy. When you consider that Rangers have been chronic for 75% of the season, and we've suffered from religiously motivated refereeing in a few games, we could and should be much closer. Add that to the fact we currently look unplayable, and I think it's possible. Goss is absolutely strolling it, Docherty is looking like a future Scotland captain, Morelos is thriving since he's had the threat of Cummings replacing him and Windass can't stop scoring. We almost bodied the unwashed at Christmas with half of this current team. Two victories against them and the title will be back at its rightful home. The pressure is all on them. The very worst that should happen is, a Scottish cup win, a single digit loss in the title race, and Aberdeen firmly put back in their diddy box. If Murty achieves all this, the job will be deservedly his. Looking at it from outside - you must be absolutely delighted that you avoided Derek McInnes. His utter negativity in the matches v Celtic (Sunday was embarrassing) are the road to nowhere. Good acquisitions by Rangers and team is playing good football.Murty comes over really well - a refreshing change from the previous incumbent.The deficit is a big ask because having seen Aberdeen's pitiful attempt to derail Celtic it looks as though you will have to beat Celtic twice and hope for a few other shocks. Personally I would love to see things get tight because Rodgers has never been remotely challenged in his time in Scotland and until he is put under pressure we will never know how good he is and how decent these players actually are.One thing is for sure I don't believe there is that much between the Old Firm - you can also put a line straight through Aberdeen - no bottle on the park and a lack of managerial belief off it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeWereThePeople Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 1 hour ago, Rjc-1988 said: Looking at it from outside - you must be absolutely delighted that you avoided Derek McInnes. His utter negativity in the matches v Celtic (Sunday was embarrassing) are the road to nowhere. Good acquisitions by Rangers and team is playing good football.Murty comes over really well - a refreshing change from the previous incumbent. The deficit is a big ask because having seen Aberdeen's pitiful attempt to derail Celtic it looks as though you will have to beat Celtic twice and hope for a few other shocks. Personally I would love to see things get tight because Rodgers has never been remotely challenged in his time in Scotland and until he is put under pressure we will never know how good he is and how decent these players actually are. One thing is for sure I don't believe there is that much between the Old Firm - you can also put a line straight through Aberdeen - no bottle on the park and a lack of managerial belief off it. I wanted McInnes at the time, but in hindsight, I was perhaps wrong. I'm still on the fence about Murty, although I agree he comes across well and is doing a good job lately. I'm not sure if he's a tactical genius, or he's just landed lucky by signing 3/4 fantastic players. Probably a mixture of both. Nice to see a neutral commenting on it without the usual shite you read on here. A title race surely benefits all of Scottish football ultimately. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nsr Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 Pretty sure 80% of the Earth's surface is covered by one of the Andy Gorams alone. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 38 minutes ago, WeWereThePeople said: A title race surely benefits all of Scottish football ultimately. How so? Specifically? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 Aww the **** are getting all excited [emoji1] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 “Genuine” title race, the BBC says. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeWereThePeople Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 25 minutes ago, Monkey Tennis said: How so? Specifically? Off the top of my head, better sponsorship, better tv deal, higher profile for Scottish football. In theory, there should also be a trickle down effect for the lower leagues. Having 2 strong teams should also benefit the national team. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 6 minutes ago, WeWereThePeople said: Off the top of my head, better sponsorship, better tv deal, higher profile for Scottish football. In theory, there should also be a trickle down effect for the lower leagues. Having 2 strong teams should also benefit the national team. I said, specifically. Can you offer me any evidence at all that during the years where the duopoly was broken and therefore absent, any of these areas suffered? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wastecoatwilly Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 23 hours ago, The_Kincardine said: Murty has to be given the gig. We're the form team of the Premiership and playing some lovely football. Murty has lost 5 games in the league if you are happy with that i'm happy with that? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swordfishtrombone Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 'and we've suffered from religiously motivated refereeing in a few games' Any point you had to make lost any credibility with that nonsense. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue92 Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 I said, specifically. Can you offer me any evidence at all that during the years where the duopoly was broken and therefore absent, any of these areas suffered? Wasn't there a period of time where the top flight didnt have a sponsor? Anyways it would be hard to be specific in terms of numbers, but surely 2 teams battling is better than 1 team winning by 20 points a season in a commercial sense going forward? In an ideal world it would be good if Aberdeen and the Edinburgh clubs could compete with celtic too but its almost impossible. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Blue92 said: Wasn't there a period of time where the top flight didnt have a sponsor? Anyways it would be hard to be specific in terms of numbers, but surely 2 teams battling is better than 1 team winning by 20 points a season in a commercial sense going forward? Surely it would be terribly easy if the numbers supported that case? Let's contrast 2009 when the duopoly was alive and well, with say 2014, when it wasn't. In terms of sponsorship, TV deal, wealth of clubs in lower divisions and performance of the national team, surely the evidence must be overwhelming that the 2009 picture in each was much rosier than that for 2014? It must have been, yes? Edited February 28, 2018 by Monkey Tennis 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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