Dons_1988 Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 3 hours ago, Drew Brees said: That whole exchange is absolutely excruciating. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 5 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said: That whole exchange is absolutely excruciating. This. Not even for what theyre saying, as both are just playing parts, but for the amount of Celtic/Rangers fans who are actually buying the wee pantomime and making Sutton/Cantwell their hero. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gannonball Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 I genuinely thought Cantwells name was Tom and Todd was his brother or something. Sutton was good for sticking up for Scottish football and the odd Rangers jibe to get them frothing but he's trying way too hard now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 5 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: This. Not even for what theyre saying, as both are just playing parts, but for the amount of Celtic/Rangers fans who are actually buying the wee pantomime and making Sutton/Cantwell their hero. It really is braindead stuff. It’s incredible how people are influenced so easily. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 29 minutes ago, gannonball said: Sutton was good for sticking up for Scottish football He really, really wasn't. If he wasn't drawing a wage from it he would (rightly) keep schtum. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gannonball Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 4 minutes ago, Derry Alli said: He really, really wasn't. If he wasn't drawing a wage from it he would (rightly) keep schtum. He was though. The most prominent one I can remember when we played Man City under Rodgers he was sticking up for the Scottish game when they were shocked we managed to keep par with them. Plenty of others get paid to commentate on Scottish football and you just know they can barely be arsed passing comment. I say this as someone who doesn't really like him as a person tbh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJF Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 (edited) 19 minutes ago, gannonball said: He was though. The most prominent one I can remember when we played Man City under Rodgers he was sticking up for the Scottish game when they were shocked we managed to keep par with them. Plenty of others get paid to commentate on Scottish football and you just know they can barely be arsed passing comment. I say this as someone who doesn't really like him as a person tbh. Sutton usually only talks up or defends Scottish football if it suits him: either to talk up Celtic or if it results in winding someone up (usually an arrogant and ignorant English pundit that has a low opinion of Scottish football). Edited June 28, 2023 by AJF 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gannonball Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 4 minutes ago, AJF said: Sutton usually only talks up or defends Scottish football if it suits him: either to talk up Celtic or if it results in winding someone up (usually an arrogant and ignorant English pundit that has a low opinion of Scottish football). I'm not saying he wont have ulterior motives at times but having a known name in the English game who also is English sticking up for us is quite rare really. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuMoore Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 2 hours ago, RandomGuy. said: This. Not even for what theyre saying, as both are just playing parts, but for the amount of Celtic/Rangers fans who are actually buying the wee pantomime and making Sutton/Cantwell their hero. Rangers fans think Cantwell is a "hero" because of his footballing abilities not because he's had a wee Twitter carry on with Sutton. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stressball Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 19 minutes ago, RuMoore said: Rangers fans think Cantwell is a "hero" because of his footballing abilities not because he's had a wee Twitter carry on with Sutton. You sure? Plenty are singing his praises because of his social media posts and not giving Hatate some water 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuMoore Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 9 minutes ago, stressball said: You sure? Plenty are singing his praises because of his social media posts and not giving Hatate some water Yeah I'm sure. Also sure some folk on Twitter fully buy into all that stuff and we could play whataboutery and find plenty of celtc fans on social media that you wouldn't say sum up the wider supports views... Probably only Cantwell and Raskin have the goodwill to get away with this stuff right now due to when they joined. If we were to win f**k all next season nobody's gonna be laughing at Twitter antics. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 2 hours ago, gannonball said: He was though. The most prominent one I can remember when we played Man City under Rodgers he was sticking up for the Scottish game when they were shocked we managed to keep par with them. Plenty of others get paid to commentate on Scottish football and you just know they can barely be arsed passing comment. I say this as someone who doesn't really like him as a person tbh. He was one of the better pundits for non old firm fixtures definitely. However, that involved a level of knowledge and research that should really be expected from all of them so possibly not going to sing his praises too much. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJF Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 Signing number 5 through the door. Pretty optimistic about this one. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diegomarahenry Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 24 minutes ago, AJF said: Signing number 5 through the door. Pretty optimistic about this one. I watched him a lot at Slavia. He was plucked form absolute obscurity and within a year was scoring goals in the Europa and Champions league. He's not a traditional winger but scores a lot of goals when defences are on the back foot. He lost his way a bit towards the end of his time at Slavia with a few big clubs sniffing about him His head was maybe turned and as a result he ended up at Brighton, then on loan to Stoke. If he can get the form back that he had in the first year at Slavia then he'll be a big player this season for Rangers, especially in Europe. If he plays like he did at the end of his time, He'll be a sub most weeks. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJF Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 24 minutes ago, diegomarahenry said: I watched him a lot at Slavia. He was plucked form absolute obscurity and within a year was scoring goals in the Europa and Champions league. He's not a traditional winger but scores a lot of goals when defences are on the back foot. He lost his way a bit towards the end of his time at Slavia with a few big clubs sniffing about him His head was maybe turned and as a result he ended up at Brighton, then on loan to Stoke. If he can get the form back that he had in the first year at Slavia then he'll be a big player this season for Rangers, especially in Europe. If he plays like he did at the end of his time, He'll be a sub most weeks. Cheers for the info! I think I mentioned it before that Beale seems to be targeting players that have shown a lot of promise but have lost their way a bit (Cantwell and Butland). He must be confident he can get the best out of them again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuMoore Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 I'm happy we've signed a winger, an area that we've not really enhanced the squad in years. So far some interesting signings but I still would expect a CB, CDM, ST and at least 1 other winger. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 FWIW, updated these (again) so Lammers might look a bit different to last time (I can't remember now). Sima only listed as a striker which I think is wrong as he should be a winger? Interesting how both are pretty well rounded players, slightly below the average compared to Top5 leagues, and seem to prefer risky progressive/riskier stuff in possession rather than safe passes? Probably a lot more enjoyable to watch having multiple risk takers in the final 3rd, for as good as Kent was he seemed to (domestically) play it safe a lot when the tempo needed upped. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJF Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 19 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: FWIW, updated these (again) so Lammers might look a bit different to last time (I can't remember now). Sima only listed as a striker which I think is wrong as he should be a winger? Interesting how both are pretty well rounded players, slightly below the average compared to Top5 leagues, and seem to prefer risky progressive/riskier stuff in possession rather than safe passes? Probably a lot more enjoyable to watch having multiple risk takers in the final 3rd, for as good as Kent was he seemed to (domestically) play it safe a lot when the tempo needed upped. Forgive me as I’m not always the best at reading this data, but does it give a suggestion as to how they might fare compared to SPFL level? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 3 minutes ago, AJF said: Forgive me as I’m not always the best at reading this data, but does it give a suggestion as to how they might fare compared to SPFL level? I've tried before to find a way to "predict" it, but it turned out shite for the most part tbh. In saying that I've not tried in a while so might try again. In other words, no. It compares them to their division and club, so its up to the reader to determine how things will translate. I'd suggest with both players going from middling/bottom sides in a T5 league, to a top club in Scotland, means they'll see everything increase. If Lammers can be more clinical theres every chance he turns out to be a star IMO. It seems a pretty smart approach tbh, going for average/below average players from stronger leagues. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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