AJF Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 (edited) 9 hours ago, 2426255 said: What is the Rangers strategy around closing the gap on Celtic? I'm not seeing it. If i were a Rangers fan then thats what i would want to know. It depends in what sense. Financially, we won't close the gap unless we qualify for the Champions League. The next priority should be building a team and a style that is capable of nullifying Celtic when we play them, much like Gerrard did. It's not really the games against the rest of the league that hindered us much this season (relative to Celtic), rather the head-to-head meetings with Celtic. Edited May 31 by AJF 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahemps Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 8 hours ago, Jinky67 said: I don’t think either the Steau team of 86 or Benfica in the 60’s done their own domestic doubles when they won the European Cup Again this isn’t a claim that what Celtic done eclipses any other teams achievements just that it appears to be a unique one. The greatest win? Well that’s some debate that. Forest, Villa, Dortmund maybe even Jose’s Porto but it’s a debate for another thread They didn't do their domestic double. I saw a list of trebles which included the European cup and Celtic were the 1st to do it. 1967 - Celtic 1972 - Ajax 1988 -PSV 1999 - Man Utd 2009 -Barca 2010 - Inter 2013 - Bayern 2015 - Barca 2020 - Bayern 2023 - Man City Not a great sample size but appears this was a once in a decade achievement before 2000 but now appears to be happening more frequent. I agree the greatest win is very subjective. Utd were close to losing the FA cup semi to Arsenal but for a missed penalty from Bergkamp and 2 injury time goals to win the European cup. City romped to theirs which showed how much better they were than everyone else. What is the greater achievement? Forest coming from Division 2 to win back to back European cups, sadly that kind of thing would be impossible these days. I only have in depth knowledge of UK stories I am sure there are countless achievements from European teams that we don't know the background too that would have very strong cases. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2426255 Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 (edited) 7 hours ago, AJF said: It depends in what sense. Financially, we won't close the gap unless we qualify for the Champions League. The next priority should be building a team and a style that is capable of nullifying Celtic when we play them, much like Gerrard did. It's not really the games against the rest of the league that hindered us much this season (relative to Celtic), rather the head-to-head meetings with Celtic. I heard a few pundits (both sides) suggest that until Rangers get themselves into a position where they don't have to worry about stopping Celtic and have their own players who can dominate the game then they will find it hard to win their h2h games. I agree with you that for the time being they're better being tough to beat and hitting on the counter - playing smart essentially. Perhaps we've already seen Clement attempt to play that out in 2 different forms last season (the last old firm of the season and the others). I don't think it was well accepted by Rangers fans. 'Battle Fever', Going toe to toe and meeting fire with fire is what the fans want to see. Does it all come down simply to recruitment? If so, what competitive advantage do they have over Celtic? Are they looking to South America? do they have a tie up with a Premier League club? that sort of thing. If they don't then they're just waiting for Celtic to dip which they will do from time to time. Edited May 31 by 2426255 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insaintee Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 14 hours ago, 2426255 said: What is the Rangers strategy around closing the gap on Celtic? I'm not seeing it. If i were a Rangers fan then thats what i would want to know. If Rangers are serious about catching Celtic then they should consider league reconstruction to play each other just twice in say a 16 team league. Having to play each other four times means that even if they sneak the odd win or draw, the Celtic juggernaut means that each season they need to make up at least 4 points on Celtic in their other games (this season 9 points and on average over the last five Celtic wins 4.5) clearly that's a huge ask. Yes in Gerard's covid season they gained 9 points over their rivals but that was once since returning to the top fight. Continuing to have all those games against celtic really is a handycap. BTW the same is true for other teams that want to challenge for the top spot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bogbrush1903 Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 22 hours ago, ahemps said: In the early days of Europe lots of teams got to the final with mostly all domestic players, when there was a non domestic player you'll find that it was 1 or 2 players who were not from that nation until around the mid 70's and then the trend changes. Although Steau Bucharest won it in 86 with a team full of Romanians and when they lost the final in 1990 it was still 11 Romanians. I'm not contesting what you're saying, I agree with it overall but I would add that the Steaua team pulled together most of the best players in the country, like a national team, because of the privileges available to the Romanian Army. To that ends it was similar to Dynamo Kiev in the Ukrainian S.S.R where it's position in a Communist society could allow it to cherry pick the best player in the country. Also Steaua lost the 1989 European Cup Final rather than the 1990. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Theroadlesstravelled Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 Tav and Goldson surviving another clear out. When are their contracts up? Will they be there for the next manager's rebuild in 2025/26? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJF Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 (edited) Quite excited to see Cortes sign. Looked quite promising in the brief run that he had before his injury. Edited June 3 by AJF 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 Quite sensible for once, hopefully he can get a good run of games as he looked good before his injury. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 Embarrassing and petty from us. RANGERS have WON their claim against Dundee for compensation over the Dens Park call-offs. Gers chiefs hit the Dark Blues with a bill for travel and overnight accommodation expenses for the postponed Premiership clashes on March 17 and April 10. On both occasions Philippe Clement and his players had travelled to a hotel in vain. Dundee, who have already been fined £186,000 by the SPFL for suffering five call-offs and lost an appeal against that decision earlier this week, told Ibrox bosses they wouldn’t be paying. Rangers took the case to the league governing body and they have now decided John Nelms will have to cough up. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJF Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 19 minutes ago, bennett said: Embarrassing and petty from us. RANGERS have WON their claim against Dundee for compensation over the Dens Park call-offs. Gers chiefs hit the Dark Blues with a bill for travel and overnight accommodation expenses for the postponed Premiership clashes on March 17 and April 10. On both occasions Philippe Clement and his players had travelled to a hotel in vain. Dundee, who have already been fined £186,000 by the SPFL for suffering five call-offs and lost an appeal against that decision earlier this week, told Ibrox bosses they wouldn’t be paying. Rangers took the case to the league governing body and they have now decided John Nelms will have to cough up. Aye. Rather needless and reeks of entitlement. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjoey Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 2 hours ago, bennett said: Embarrassing and petty from us. RANGERS have WON their claim against Dundee for compensation over the Dens Park call-offs. Gers chiefs hit the Dark Blues with a bill for travel and overnight accommodation expenses for the postponed Premiership clashes on March 17 and April 10. On both occasions Philippe Clement and his players had travelled to a hotel in vain. Dundee, who have already been fined £186,000 by the SPFL for suffering five call-offs and lost an appeal against that decision earlier this week, told Ibrox bosses they wouldn’t be paying. Rangers took the case to the league governing body and they have now decided John Nelms will have to cough up. The only word that can sum up Rangers position in this, is pathetic. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insaintee Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 2 hours ago, bennett said: Embarrassing and petty from us. RANGERS have WON their claim against Dundee for compensation over the Dens Park call-offs. Gers chiefs hit the Dark Blues with a bill for travel and overnight accommodation expenses for the postponed Premiership clashes on March 17 and April 10. On both occasions Philippe Clement and his players had travelled to a hotel in vain. Dundee, who have already been fined £186,000 by the SPFL for suffering five call-offs and lost an appeal against that decision earlier this week, told Ibrox bosses they wouldn’t be paying. Rangers took the case to the league governing body and they have now decided John Nelms will have to cough up. TBF If I had to stay overnight in Dundee I'd be wanting compensated. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjoey Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 1 hour ago, Insaintee said: TBF If I had to stay overnight in Dundee I'd be wanting compensated. It was St Andrews. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sortmeout Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 (edited) 4 hours ago, bennett said: Embarrassing and petty from us. RANGERS have WON their claim against Dundee for compensation over the Dens Park call-offs. Gers chiefs hit the Dark Blues with a bill for travel and overnight accommodation expenses for the postponed Premiership clashes on March 17 and April 10. On both occasions Philippe Clement and his players had travelled to a hotel in vain. Dundee, who have already been fined £186,000 by the SPFL for suffering five call-offs and lost an appeal against that decision earlier this week, told Ibrox bosses they wouldn’t be paying. Rangers took the case to the league governing body and they have now decided John Nelms will have to cough up. Quite surprised at this. I would’ve assumed any financial losses from these postponements would’ve been absorbed by the holding company and not the club? Why have the SPFL got involved in this non-club issue? #sevco12years Edited June 7 by Sortmeout 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigmouth Strikes Again Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 You can delay the kick off due to your incompetence negotiating road works, you can also delay the match because of a dangerous pyro display. That's all fine though. Now this absolute shite. Sorry, but you're a shower of chunts. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stressball Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 22 hours ago, bennett said: Embarrassing and petty from us. RANGERS have WON their claim against Dundee for compensation over the Dens Park call-offs. Gers chiefs hit the Dark Blues with a bill for travel and overnight accommodation expenses for the postponed Premiership clashes on March 17 and April 10. On both occasions Philippe Clement and his players had travelled to a hotel in vain. Dundee, who have already been fined £186,000 by the SPFL for suffering five call-offs and lost an appeal against that decision earlier this week, told Ibrox bosses they wouldn’t be paying. Rangers took the case to the league governing body and they have now decided John Nelms will have to cough up. 21 hours ago, AJF said: Aye. Rather needless and reeks of entitlement. 19 hours ago, kingjoey said: The only word that can sum up Rangers position in this, is pathetic. 16 hours ago, Bigmouth Strikes Again said: You can delay the kick off due to your incompetence negotiating road works, you can also delay the match because of a dangerous pyro display. That's all fine though. Now this absolute shite. Sorry, but you're a shower of chunts. Just echoing what everyone else is saying… Absolutely pathetic. The sense of entitlement is off the charts, but I suppose after the disappointment of the business end of the season they needed to win something. Be interesting to see how they get on with their latest Mike Ashley court case. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJF Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 Signing number 2 (3 if you include Cortes returning). With Jefte, Nsiala and Cortes all being 20 years old and Diomande 22, our last 4 signings seem to give an indication as to what our transfer strategy might be shifting to. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stressball Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 18 hours ago, AJF said: Signing number 2 (3 if you include Cortes returning). With Jefte, Nsiala and Cortes all being 20 years old and Diomande 22, our last 4 signings seem to give an indication as to what our transfer strategy might be shifting to. Cheap / free and young. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby_F Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 2 hours ago, stressball said: Cheap / free and young. And failed at a big name club? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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