nsr Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 17 minutes ago, AJF said: I’d be surprised to see him go at this stage - I think he has made good progress in his time here and will want to push on further. Further in what direction? He's never going to catch Celtic. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJF Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 19 minutes ago, Bohemian said: No doubt he has made some progress but the fact is he still finished a long way off Celtic and still hasn't won anything. Progress in Glasgow is judged on titles and trophies. Another season without either will see him gone and deemed a failure surely. He will be aware of that. Bristol city is probably not attractive enough for him mind. Yeah, I’d tend to agree. It’s an uphill battle to compete with Celtic given the disparity in resources but he has made us competitive. 2 years in a row a complete implosion has been our issue, rather than not being good enough. I said it before but I think some added depth in the squad and we can give it a good go. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 3 hours ago, AJF said: Before this thread heads off into deep waters, please can we avoid generalising and branding a minority of fans as representatives of the fan base as a whole. I can see you're new here. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Gordon Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 27 minutes ago, AJF said: Yeah, I’d tend to agree. It’s an uphill battle to compete with Celtic given the disparity in resources but he has made us competitive. 2 years in a row a complete implosion has been our issue, rather than not being good enough. I said it before but I think some added depth in the squad and we can give it a good go. It is certainly strange. It does make me wonder what goes on at the warm-weather training camps over the winter break. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelmen Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 Kent’s an idiot, but to be fair to him the lion player does tap him a couple of times first.Obviously I’m happy at him missing a couple of weeks of the new season but it is a joke that because this is classed as a proper friendly the red card can count towards a suspension but a closed door game red card doesn’t count. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florentine_Pogen Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 Kent’s an idiot, but to be fair to him the lion player does tap him a couple of times first.Obviously I’m happy at him missing a couple of weeks of the new season but it is a joke that because this is classed as a proper friendly the red card can count towards a suspension but a closed door game red card doesn’t count.Roolz is Roolz, likesay, ken? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeo Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 Looks like the **** still have a problem with their players temperament . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 Common sense. STV Sport @STVSport · 8m Rangers' Ryan Kent is to avoid a domestic suspension after being sent off against Lyon 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, Romeo said: Looks like the **** still have a problem with their players temperament . This from the supporter of a team that includes Brown is either some neck or as damning an indictment of Rangers as it possible to have. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Brees Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 No suspension for Kent. https://news.stv.tv/sport/ryan-kent-avoids-premiership-ban-after-lyon-red-card?top&&__twitter_impression=true 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeo Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 2 hours ago, strichener said: This from the supporter of a team that includes Brown is either some neck or as damning an indictment of Rangers as it possible to have. You're right, what about Celtic players... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sortmeout Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 2 hours ago, strichener said: This from the supporter of a team that includes Brown is either some neck or as damning an indictment of Rangers as it possible to have. Brown is a thug but he hasn’t had any issue with his temperament for about 10 years. Everything Brown does is measured and calculated. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hearthammer Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 7 hours ago, AJF said: Yeah, I’d tend to agree. It’s an uphill battle to compete with Celtic given the disparity in resources but he has made us competitive. 2 years in a row a complete implosion has been our issue, rather than not being good enough. I said it before but I think some added depth in the squad and we can give it a good go. Was the same mentality and reservations held during the industrial cheating years ?? Asking for 41 football teams. Cheers 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 50 minutes ago, Romeo said: You're right, what about Celtic players... It's only fair since you tend not to post about them unless they are on a Rangers thread. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeo Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 1 minute ago, strichener said: It's only fair since you tend not to post about them unless they are on a Rangers thread. Not sure why it's triggered you but I apologise. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJF Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 19 minutes ago, hearthammer said: Was the same mentality and reservations held during the industrial cheating years ?? Asking for 41 football teams. Cheers That’s generally how sport at any level works - the teams with the most financial muscle tend to be the most successful. I’ve always been able to appreciate that, now even more so. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hearthammer Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, AJF said: That’s generally how sport at any level works - the teams with the most financial muscle tend to be the most successful. I’ve always been able to appreciate that, now even more so. You seem like a decent, reasonably articulate guy. You ignored the question, tho. Of course, in the vast majority of football leagues, the teams with the more substantial access to funds generally tend to dominate. During the cheating years, that was certainly the case with your original team. Do you accept now that skulduggery was afoot and that, in Scottish Corporate law, the team/club/company now playing in Govan are a separate entity ?? Again, asking for 41 football teams. Cheers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJF Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, hearthammer said: You seem like a decent, reasonably articulate guy. You ignored the question, tho. Of course, in the vast majority of football leagues, the teams with the more substantial access to funds generally tend to dominate. During the cheating years, that was certainly the case with your original team. Do you accept now that skulduggery was afoot and that, in Scottish Corporate law, the team/club/company now playing in Govan are a separate entity ?? Again, asking for 41 football teams. Cheers Well to answer that, it’s a slightly convoluted answer. In my eyes, my “original team” are still the team I go and support now. However, I do accept that Scottish Corporate law may view that differently, and from a technical viewpoint I understand this is a different... legal entity, perhaps? But, to me anyway, football is not a sport that is played out in a corporate playground. I often use the duck test (sometimes referred to as the elephant test) as a way of explaining how I feel: if it looks like a duck, swims like a duck and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck. So, in this case, if a team looks like Rangers, is treated like Rangers and for all intents and purposes, acts like Rangers, then it probably is Rangers. I won’t be convinced otherwise and I certainly won’t buy into anyone’s claims that the team I currently support isn’t the team I have supported since I was a wee laddie. Edit: and yes, to answer the other part of your question, I do accept that there were mistakes made previously and everything was not “above board”. Edited July 17, 2020 by AJF Missed a point 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hearthammer Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 1 minute ago, AJF said: Well to answer that, it’s a slightly convoluted answer. In my eyes, my “original team” are still the team I go and support now. However, I do accept that Scottish Corporate law may view that differently, and from a technical viewpoint I understand this is a different... legal entity, perhaps? But, to me anyway, football is not a sport that is played out in a corporate playground. I often use the duck test (sometimes referred to as the elephant test) as a way of explaining how I feel: if it looks like a duck, swims like a duck and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck. So, in this case, if a team looks like Rangers, is treated like Rangers and for all intents and purposes, acts like Rangers, then it probably is Rangers. I won’t be convinced otherwise and I certainly won’t buy into anyone’s claims that the team I currently support isn’t the team I have supported since I was a wee laddie. The prosecution rests, m'lud. Cheers 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 14 minutes ago, hearthammer said: You seem like a decent, reasonably articulate guy. You ignored the question, tho. Of course, in the vast majority of football leagues, the teams with the more substantial access to funds generally tend to dominate. During the cheating years, that was certainly the case with your original team. Do you accept now that skulduggery was afoot and that, in Scottish Corporate law, the team/club/company now playing in Govan are a separate entity ?? Again, asking for 41 football teams. Cheers An expert in Scottish corporate law are we? -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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