Favourite quirks of Scottish stadiums.

[Davie Bhoy]

They only have one mob, it's Dundee Utility. A mixture of both sets.

That's what I mean mate. It came about because originally neither side was big enough to stand up to the firms from Glasgow, Edinburgh & Aberdeen so they combined forces. Just curious what they do, if anything when they meet each other. Can never get my head round going to watch your rival team every 2nd week.

I didn't realise that.

I always thought it was a novel way to give spectators a better view of both ends of the pitch

I'd been up there a few times and didn't realise that's why it was like that. Only found out a few years ago myself thanks to the wonders of t'internet

Just don't understand why they didn't make it a straight stand.

[Davie Bhoy]

Not missed a game we've played there in near enough 20 years.

Shame majority of Celtic fans can't say likewise. 

Fair play to you then mate. I doff my hat at you. Especially since Killie are one of the poorest travelling supports to Celtic Park and they're only 30-40 mins down the road. So fair play to being one of the few.

I'm also with you on the absent fans on our own side. They do my head in too mate. The same ones who moan about the club not spending money, but who don't turn up to put the money in unless they get the big names signed.

[topcat(The most tip top)]

1 hour ago, Davie Bhoy said:

Another main stand that irritates me is the one at Dens Park. I know it's bends in because it takes the shape of the road outside but why did they feel they had to? Could they not have just built it straight? Just another wee curiosity there.

By building in kinked both wings are facing in towards the middle. 

Modern engineering techniques  have made it easy for new stands to be curved  to  focus on the middle (like the emirates) which is a better way of achieving the same thing.

 

[TheScarf]

16 minutes ago, Squirrelhumper said:

I remember being on that terracing at ICT scoring in injury time to go 1-0 up in the Scottish. We went straight up the park and scored to make it 1-1. We got a goal not given in the first half (McLaren) when it was about 5 foot over the line.

Good times.

The date on the video is actually wrong.  It was season 2000-2001.

[Steve_Wilkos]

24 minutes ago, Davie Bhoy said:

 

Fair play to you then mate. I doff my hat at you. Especially since Killie are one of the poorest travelling supports to Celtic Park and they're only 30-40 mins down the road. So fair play to being one of the few.

I'm also with you on the absent fans on our own side. They do my head in too mate. The same ones who moan about the club not spending money, but who don't turn up to put the money in unless they get the big names signed.

 

 

Look at this "mate" nicey nice shite. 

Absolute cringe, mate. 

[Davie Bhoy]

 

Look at this "mate" nicey nice shite. 

Absolute cringe, mate. 

I'm a nice kinda guy, mate

Contrary to what people on here think.

[CityDave]

Football grounds that belong to Universities.

Here's some pictures showing the pitch at the Hillhead Centre, Aberdeen where the home team of then called Hillhead (shown here playing Inverness City) who have changed their name more times than Livingston have renamed their ground are now called Newburgh Thistle. The club has now left Hillhead and the pitch is currently being used by Aberdeen University in the North Juniors. Newburgh Thistle were previously known as Bridge of Don Thistle and before that Hillhead having started life as Wilson's XI.

Its a decent stand which has a high vantage point to see the action with the seats above the changing rooms.There is a walkway beneath the seated area above the dugouts if you prefer to stand, though I remember the club weren't keen of people standing above the home side dugout, made them nervous and I think you also do get in the line of sight of those sitting in the stand above so any standing tends to be away from standing right in front of the seats. The other three sides of the ground have no access.

 

Edited September 6, 2016 by CityDave

[Salvo Montalbano]

34 minutes ago, CityDave said:

I'm not a fan of them and don't sit in the North Stand unless there are no seats in the Main Stand or the weather is very bad where I would relocate. I'm sure they mentioned when the two stands were being constructed what the life span of these were, but I can't remember what it was. Not sure what you mean by that state, are they falling apart?

They aren't falling apart although there is a lot of give in the structure and I guess there is a reason that they are temporary and usually only seen at golf events etc where they are very shirt term. It also seems a bit of a con to allow Inverness to build "temporary" stands that are still there a decade or so later. I think most assumed a the time that they were allowed to do so to allow them to move back to Inverness from Pittodrie, and since they were the first to not have to comply with the ridiculous 10,000 seat rule they've certainly dodged a financial bullet twice if they don't ever have to build a permanent structure.

Now I'm not suggesting that Inverness go out and spend more money for the sake of evening things our with teams that have been forced to build "proper" stands and I also enjoy a game up there. But given there is no longer an all seated rule in the SPFL I'd like them to build something permanent and ideally that could be a covered terrace.

[CityDave]

3 minutes ago, Salvo Montalbano said:

They aren't falling apart although there is a lot of give in the structure and I guess there is a reason that they are temporary and usually only seen at golf events etc where they are very shirt term. It also seems a bit of a con to allow Inverness to build "temporary" stands that are still there a decade or so later. I think most assumed a the time that they were allowed to do so to allow them to move back to Inverness from Pittodrie, and since they were the first to not have to comply with the ridiculous 10,000 seat rule they've certainly dodged a financial bullet twice if they don't ever have to build a permanent structure.

Now I'm not suggesting that Inverness go out and spend more money for the sake of evening things our with teams that have been forced to build "proper" stands and I also enjoy a game up there. But given there is no longer an all seated rule in the SPFL I'd like them to build something permanent and ideally that could be a covered terrace.

If the day comes to have safe standing those two parts of the ground would be ideal with new permanent constructions. As I've said previously those two stands have a lifespan and added to that lot shorter than a solid built one and I don't think its more than a couple of decades for H&S reasons. However it might be the case that the club may choose to move to a new site by then, if they can afford it. Other temp' stands have been kicking about for even longer, some being passed around from club to club.

[Squirrelhumper]

1 hour ago, Davie Bhoy said:

 

That's what I mean mate. It came about because originally neither side was big enough to stand up to the firms from Glasgow, Edinburgh & Aberdeen so they combined forces. Just curious what they do, if anything when they meet each other. Can never get my head round going to watch your rival team every 2nd week.
 

 

I doubt many, if any go to watch their rivals. 

[Squirrelhumper]

1 hour ago, Davie Bhoy said:

 

Fair play to you then mate. I doff my hat at you. Especially since Killie are one of the poorest travelling supports to Celtic Park and they're only 30-40 mins down the road. So fair play to being one of the few.

 

 

We've won once at Parkhead in 61 years. You can be rest assured that not many of the self proclaimed best fans in the world would attend RP year after year in those circumstances. Celtic can't even sell out one stand at RP despite being only 35-40 minutes down the road and having at least 10x as big a home support as us so proportionately you're support is one of the worst to visit RP.

[HibeeJibee]

I doubt the Main Stand at Dundee was built as an echelon to give people a better view. I'm not aware of another stand of the vintage which was built like that, in fact I struggle to think of many at all. It follows the line of the road behind. I would imagine this was done to maximise the paddock in front which before it was reconfigured for dog racing was a full terrace?

[Davie Bhoy]

We've won once at Parkhead in 61 years. You can be rest assured that not many of the self proclaimed best fans in the world would attend RP year after year in those circumstances. Celtic can't even sell out one stand at RP despite being only 35-40 minutes down the road and having at least 10x as big a home support as us so proportionately you're support is one of the worst to visit RP.

You know that's not true though. We sell out one stand and there are a thousand or so fans in the other stand with the banners.

Many Celtic fans refuse to go to Rugby Park due to Killie being vocal in their opposition to the The Rangers not being elevated straight into the top flight of Scottish football & eventually when more voices came out in opposition, could still only bring themselves to abstain at best so they could attempt to keep more visiting fans on-side. Plus there is many who are sick of Killie bumping the prices up for our fans (although given our prices are comparable for Killie fans, it's not an argument I agree with). I'm a bit hazy with this but was there not a case of Killie previously handing over a 3rd stand to Rangers but then refusing to do the same for Celtic?

Either way given we roughly bring about 5,000 fans to your place, it's just plain silly to suggest we are one of the worst fans to visit RP, proportionately or otherwise.

[Davie Bhoy]

I doubt the Main Stand at Dundee was built as an echelon to give people a better view. I'm not aware of another stand of the vintage which was built like that, in fact I struggle to think of many at all. It follows the line of the road behind. I would imagine this was done to maximise the paddock in front which before it was reconfigured for dog racing was a full terrace?

Was thinking that myself but wasn't 100%. Sure enough I'd have said that then 2 mins later somebody would've presented a 20 page dossier 5 mins later to prove otherwise

[Squirrelhumper]

11 minutes ago, Davie Bhoy said:

 

 

You know that's not true though. We sell out one stand and there are a thousand or so fans in the other stand with the banners.

Many Celtic fans refuse to go to Rugby Park due to Killie being vocal in their opposition to the The Rangers not being elevated straight into the top flight of Scottish football & eventually when more voices came out in opposition, could still only bring themselves to abstain at best so they could attempt to keep more visiting fans on-side. Plus there is many who are sick of Killie bumping the prices up for our fans (although given our prices are comparable for Killie fans, it's not an argument I agree with). I'm a bit hazy with this but was there not a case of Killie previously handing over a 3rd stand to Rangers but then refusing to do the same for Celtic?

Either way given we roughly bring about 5,000 fans to your place, it's just plain silly to suggest we are one of the worst fans to visit RP, proportionately or otherwise.

 

 

You are being paranoid, which is not a surprise given your team. You are also being liberal with the truth.

We gave Celtic three stands when the won the league at RP. The previous season we refused Rangers 3 stands (although a lot of them bought home end tickets)

5,000 fans at RP? Ok then, lets look at facts eh? 

05/01/2015 - Kilmarnock 0 Celtic 2 (Att 5,329)

12/08/2015 - Kilmarnock 2 Celtic 2 (Att 6,090)

19/03/2016 - Kilmarnock 0 Celtic 1 (Att 6,867)

That's the last 3 games we've played you, last one was when the league was tight against Aberdeen so slightly higher.

If Celtic take 5,000 to RP regularly, are you seriously saying that a club with 2500+ season ticket holders had less than 1,000 fans at these games?

You bring less than 10% of your home support to RP, Motherwell bring about 25% of theirs, Thistle bring about 25-30% of theirs. What is hard to understand about that? I take it you do understand what proportion means?

There's probably 5000 Celtic fans in Killie, there certainly will be in East Ayrshire but they certainly don't attend RP when you play us.

Next time you are going to get all defensive about your clubs support, please at least get your facts right.

As for bumping the prices up, it won't stop you frothing at the mouth to hand Rangers £49 so don't buy that excuse. Especially when we get charged the same at Parkhead for an inferior view.

[CityDave]

I see Davie Bhoy is back trying to derail the thread again.

[shull]

2 hours ago, Davie Bhoy said:

 

I'm a nice kinda guy, mate

Contrary to what people on here think.

 

Fergus McCann ain't yir mate. 

[sjc]

7 minutes ago, CityDave said:

I see Davie Bhoy is back trying to derail the thread again.

if Davie had his way we would all be showering Celtic in gratitude for being the saviours of all of Scottish football

[Davie Bhoy]

You are being paranoid, which is not a surprise given your team. You are also being liberal with the truth.

We gave Celtic three stands when the won the league at RP. The previous season we refused Rangers 3 stands (although a lot of them bought home end tickets)

Hence why I said I was being hazy with it as I was trying to remember & in no way passing it off as a fact, although you have clearly taken it as a fact.

5,000 fans at RP? Ok then, lets look at facts eh? 

05/01/2015 - Kilmarnock 0 Celtic 2 (Att 5,329)

12/08/2015 - Kilmarnock 2 Celtic 2 (Att 6,090)

19/03/2016 - Kilmarnock 0 Celtic 1 (Att 6,867)

That's the last 3 games we've played you, last one was when the league was tight against Aberdeen so slightly higher.

I clearly said "about 5000". So that's a ballpoint figure. You have just selected 3 games to suit your argument. If you maybe look at say the last 10-12 games & give our average then you'd get a more accurate reflection.

If Celtic take 5,000 to RP regularly, are you seriously saying that a club with 2500+ season ticket holders had less than 1,000 fans at these games?

Again, reminding you I never said an exact 5000 & the fact that according to fans of smaller clubs on here who have at several times in the past said, a lot of their own fans tend to give games against us & Rangers a miss when we play them as they can't bear to be around us...their excuses, not mine...then who knows how many Killie fans are there. Certainly less than the visiting fans.

You bring less than 10% of your home support to RP, Motherwell bring about 25% of theirs, Thistle bring about 25-30% of theirs. What is hard to understand about that? I take it you do understand what proportion means?

Yes I do & I think it's a silly way to decide a good or a bad away support. For a start if we were to bring down about 25% of our home support, where would you put us? Secondly is that exactly 25% of Motherwell's support or are you accepting it as "about" unlike how you did with my claim?

There's probably 5000 Celtic fans in Killie, there certainly will be in East Ayrshire but they certainly don't attend RP when you play us.

Are they all season ticket holders though. As you know they need to be in order to apply for tickets for away games.

Next time you are going to get all defensive about your clubs support, please at least get your facts right.

The next time I'm making any "facts" I will. I was clearly speaking roughly, but you decided to seize on an opportunity to try & get all high & mighty. We bring over 4,000 fans to your stadium. If you want to post a novel arguing over the difference of a few hundred in the past few games, then fair enough.

As for bumping the prices up, it won't stop you frothing at the mouth to hand Rangers £49 so don't buy that excuse. Especially when we get charged the same at Parkhead for an inferior view.

Now you're arguing with me...despite me clearly stating I don't agree with that argument that some Celtic fans put forward. Wow! Oh & as a season ticket holder, I personally won't be shelling out £49 for this game & have no issue with any Johnny come lately's from being charged that. Unlike yourselves, I'm glad to see our glory hunters being charged for coming out the woodwork.

[Davie Bhoy]

I see Davie Bhoy is back trying to derail the thread again.

How am I the one derailing it? I'm responding to comments made. Get a grip.

Fergus McCann ain't yir mate. 

Ssssshhh stop derailing the thread. Although I am a tip top guy

if Davie had his way we would all be showering Celtic in gratitude for being the saviours of all of Scottish football

Nope, just a sensible debate would be nice instead of people adopting their positions & feeling it's beyond them to give credit where it's due. Just look at the European threads as an example. Celtic fans all wishing the other clubs well. Was it reciprocated? Nope...only a very small number of decent posters did. The majority were too spiteful.