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The people that vote for him, don't vote for him because they think he's good. The vote for him, because anything that is anti-SNP is less worse, regardless of all reasoning and logic.


In the case of Mundell, that is horseshit. He’s been the MP since 2005, predating the SNP government and referendum, and while the seat was created in 2005, Dumfriesshire has been a long-time Tory zone.
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14 hours ago, welshbairn said:

May got a much softer time from the hard core Brexiteers and DUP today. I could see them falling in line and getting the withdrawal bill through. 

I finally got a chance to watched recorded versions of this last night and can’t agree with your analysis.

Things were more muted but there doesn’t seem to be a softening of positions even as May is trying to placate the likes of IDS.

Very few Tories speaking in support of May.  I think the anger and flowery rhetoric of her opponents has been replaced by a more steely determination.

 

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3 hours ago, Paco said:

 


In the case of Mundell, that is horseshit. He’s been the MP since 2005, predating the SNP government and referendum, and while the seat was created in 2005, Dumfriesshire has been a long-time Tory zone.

 

Which brings me back to my little Englanders comments. 13 years he’s been there and what has he done?

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The Economists take on a No Deal  Brexit.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.economist.com/leaders/2018/11/24/the-truth-about-a-no-deal-brexit#ampf=undefined

May supporters are using the “people just want us to get on with it” line in trying to gain support for her plan.  

It is a total dereliction of duty and any member of the public who does utter those words hasn’t thought through the consequences and doesn’t deserve the right to vote.

 

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This link was posted earlier on the BBC bias thread. I'm surprised there hasn't been much comment on it, and wonder if few bother to read that thread.

Re-posting the link here. The BBC Scotland's agenda is utterly scandalous and must fly in the face of all their codes of conduct.

http://indyref2.scot/bbc-scotland-moves-to-protect-scottish-tories-as-mays-fishing-betrayal-is-revealed

 

 

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2 minutes ago, ICTJohnboy said:

This link was posted earlier on the BBC bias thread. I'm surprised there hasn't been much comment on it, and wonder if few bother to read that thread.

Re-posting the link here. The BBC Scotland's agenda is utterly scandalous and must fly in the face of all their codes of conduct.

http://indyref2.scot/bbc-scotland-moves-to-protect-scottish-tories-as-mays-fishing-betrayal-is-revealed

You try to warn people, only to be written off as some David Icke nutter type. The vast majority of people just aren't ready to be unplugged.

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/nov/23/sajid-javid-abandons-plans-to-ban-50-calibre-military-grade-guns

May so weak she has to concede to the DUP and Tory Brexiteers by abandoning a gun ban.

The bill would have got approval with Labour support but she cannot risk upsetting any more ‘allies’.

 

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In the case of Mundell, that is horseshit. He’s been the MP since 2005, predating the SNP government and referendum, and while the seat was created in 2005, Dumfriesshire has been a long-time Tory zone.
Is the rural working class voting Tory a uniquely Scottish thing or does it happen elsewhere?

I know from my own family's experience of growing up in rural Perthshire that there was a very much a forelock-tugging to the master mentality.
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8 minutes ago, Detournement said:

A 2 and half minute video discussing the possibility of Lexit on the BBC last night has the Meltdom in uproar.

The only Marxists allowed on TV seem to be young women in their 20s but Grace is doing a good job.

 

 

You think? Can't watch the clip so don't know if that's her whole appearance but she was awful last night, peak entitled Oxbridge/private school arrogance. Did the Milo trick of talking rapidfire nonsense so it was impossible to argue with. 

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8 hours ago, BawWatchin said:

Which brings me back to my little Englanders comments. 13 years he’s been there and what has he done?

What do most MP's do?

your comment about the English shows you up as a xenophobe and does disservice to reasoned arguments for independence.

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1 minute ago, welshbairn said:

You think? Don't know that's her whole appearance but she was awful last night, peak entitled Oxbridge/private school arrogance. Did the Milo trick of talking rapidfire nonsense so it was impossible to argue with. 

She is nothing like Milo. She is extremely knowledgeable about economics and is very clear and concise in making her points.

I don't think her attitude is anything to with her background. She simply isn't willing to humour to the economic falsehoods that are promoted/accepted on these programs so she comes across as being combative. The fact that Neil the host cites Germany and Sweden* - where inequality is growing rapidly - as examples of the EU's compatibility with democratic socialism shows how off kilter they are.

*Sweden is unbelievably now more unequal than the UK in terms of wealth.

 

 

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