welshbairn Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 8 minutes ago, Donathan said: Any Labour MP who rebels or even abstains to facilitate the deal does so in full knowledge that the ERG will seize control of the next phase of negotiations if MV3 goes through. Voting against MV3 is a complete must at this point. If by some miracle it passes, May resigns and the Brexiteers take over, there will be a General Election within months. The ERG are a minority even in their own party, they wouldn't get anything passed in the house. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Venom Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 40 years ago. [emoji38] Would be a lot better for him if Labour's incompetence under Corbyn's leadership couldn't be shown again and again.It's beyond parody.The only Labour can keep the Tories out is a laugh too. Had every single Scottish seat gone to Labour in 2016 they'd still have trailed the Tories. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donathan Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: Her excuse for calling a GE? Like Londonwell I don’t see the numbers adding up. 2 minutes ago, welshbairn said: If by some miracle it passes, May resigns and the Brexiteers take over, there will be a General Election within months. The ERG are a minority even in their own party, they wouldn't get anything passed in the house. One option that's being talked about amongst some Labour activists that are more sympathetic to the leave cause is that if May does indeed split the WA and the PD apart and tables the MV3 on only the WA, with a future PM to negotiate the future relationship, Labour may be able to get on board with this provided that May will guarantee a general election before the next round of negotiations begins to stop a mad Brexiteer PM being installed by the Tory grass roots and leading us to a hard Brexit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 19 minutes ago, Londonwell said: With the DUP steadfast, you would have to think so. You forgot "staunch" and "true"... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 5 minutes ago, Donathan said: One option that's being talked about amongst some Labour activists that are more sympathetic to the leave cause is that if May does indeed split the WA and the PD apart and tables the MV3 on only the WA, with a future PM to negotiate the future relationship, Labour may be able to get on board with this provided that May will guarantee a general election before the next round of negotiations begins to stop a mad Brexiteer PM being installed by the Tory grass roots and leading us to a hard Brexit. Sounds good to me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 9 minutes ago, Donathan said: One option that's being talked about amongst some Labour activists that are more sympathetic to the leave cause is that if May does indeed split the WA and the PD apart and tables the MV3 on only the WA, with a future PM to negotiate the future relationship, Labour may be able to get on board with this provided that May will guarantee a general election before the next round of negotiations begins to stop a mad Brexiteer PM being installed by the Tory grass roots and leading us to a hard Brexit. Anyone who is willing to accept a “guarantee” from May needs medical help. Given the fixed term parliament act May cannot guarantee anything. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UsedToGoToCentralPark Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 Anyone who is willing to accept a “guarantee” from May needs medical help. Given the fixed term parliament act May cannot guarantee anything.Fairly sure there is enough support in the house to make an early election happen.I'd be happy to get the WA voted through and then let there be an election as the country needs a Conservative majority. -7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 Fairly sure there is enough support in the house to make an early election happen.I'd be happy to get the WA voted through and then let there be an election as the country needs a Conservative majority. The country needs a tory majority? Aye still some poor people not dead. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 'Let's just agree to leave the EU now so that the mumbleclown gets the chance of an election drubbing' is probably the worst idea yet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Venom Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 Fairly sure there is enough support in the house to make an early election happen.I'd be happy to get the WA voted through and then let there be an election as the country needs a Conservative majority. Wow [emoji23] the country never "needs" a conservative majority. Still find it hilarious people think the Tories care about them. And while we are on the 40 years ago train, when was the last Tory PM not to be emptied thanks to in-party wrangling? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 Country needs a majority Tory government. Aye. We definitely need a party who's entire ideology revolves around attacking the most vulnerable of the population to be in complete control of a disastrous Brexit deal where they'll most likely make things even worse. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 Country needs a majority Tory government. Aye. We definitely need a party who's entire ideology revolves around attacking the most vulnerable of the population to be in complete control of a disastrous Brexit deal where they'll most likely make things even worse.Daft fucker must be off his meds. Especially calling for a tory government living in a region fucking decimated by them. The only thing the country needs the tory party to do is travel en masse to Jonestown and drink some coolade. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 We need a strong The Rangers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londonwell Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 Sky News is now reporting that there may be a vote and debate tomorrow but it won’t be ‘meaningful’ one. I’m away to lie down. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 @Ad Lib's thoughts on the vote tomorrow. I'm guessing he means that May might put forward just the WA tomorrow for approval, and leave the PD for wrangling over and later ratification. Would mean they'd have till May rather than just a fortnight, if it passed. Not sure if the EU would go along with that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 8 minutes ago, welshbairn said: @Ad Lib's thoughts on the vote tomorrow. I'm guessing he means that May might put forward just the WA tomorrow for approval, and leave the PD for wrangling over and later ratification. Would mean they'd have till May rather than just a fortnight, if it passed. Not sure if the EU would go along with that. Stop trying to bring him back he's escaped this hell site. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bob Mahelp Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 16 minutes ago, Jeff Venom said: Wow the country never "needs" a conservative majority. Still find it hilarious people think the Tories care about them. And while we are on the 40 years ago train, when was the last Tory PM not to be emptied thanks to in-party wrangling? You misunderstand. People are not Tory voters because they think that the Tories care about them. They're Tory voters because they believe that the Tories best represent the kind of people that they are themselves......greedy, selfish, hate-filled, uncaring bigots and xenophobes with a natural lack of empathy to anyone they see as 'different'. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 29 minutes ago, UsedToGoToCentralPark said: Fairly sure there is enough support in the house to make an early election happen. I'd be happy to get the WA voted through and then let there be an election as the country needs a Conservative majority. The Tories have proven themselves unfit to govern, their own Cabinet can't even agree on anything. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 You misunderstand. People are not Tory voters because they think that the Tories care about them. They're Tory voters because they believe that the Tories best represent the kind of people that they are themselves......greedy, selfish, hate-filled, uncaring bigots and xenophobes with a natural lack of empathy to anyone they see as 'different'. Correct, they have either been born into, or have worked to achieve (the worst type of Tory) a position of financial comfort and prefer to act at all costs to grow that position at the expense of any morals they once had. We all want a wee bit more, but if you are prepared to f**k other people over to get it, vote Tory. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O'Kelly Isley III Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 Correct, they have either been born into, or have worked to achieve (the worst type of Tory) a position of financial comfort and prefer to act at all costs to grow that position at the expense of any morals they once had. We all want a wee bit more, but if you are prepared to f**k other people over to get it, vote Tory. Er, not quite; there is a large grouping in Scotland, many of whom haven't a pot to piss in, who willingly vote for people like Annie Wells in a grotesque effort to preserve their heritage and cultural history, or whatever extreme Protestant bigotry is masquerading as these days. And Brexit itself has thrown up the wonderful irony of the full Pape Rees-Mogg hiding behind the Orange sashes of the DUP - it's a strange world, politics. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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