Granny Danger Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 1 hour ago, MONKMAN said: Sony following Panasonic's lead by moving its headquarters to Amsterdam, as a result of Brexit. The sad reality is that even if Brexit is cancelled completely it has already done huge, irreparable damage. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 19 hours ago, welshbairn said: Indeed, it always reminds me of the begging charity adverts (which are non stop these days) where the multi millionaire "star" is pleading with us all to fork out "only £5 per month" to help cause A, B, C or whatever. Meanwhile they're often being paid for their appearance, give bugger all of their own cash in most cases and sit back watching the zeros add up on their bank balances while Jimmy and Margaret Smith are feeling guilty about this child suffering in Africa while they're struggling to put food on the table for their own kids. Barstewards the lot of them !!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 8 minutes ago, MixuFixit said: See also charities that pay their chief executives £100k+, comic relief/children in need telly appeal money going into investment portfolios that include arms and tobacco companies instead of directly helping people. It's a minefield donating ethically, best rule of thumb is keep it small and local. Yip, it's basically just a legalised racket. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 26 minutes ago, MixuFixit said: See also charities that pay their chief executives £100k+, comic relief/children in need telly appeal money going into investment portfolios that include arms and tobacco companies instead of directly helping people. It's a minefield donating ethically, best rule of thumb is keep it small and local. In this day and age it's an absolute disgrace that children are dying of hunger and from drinking dirty water, I would give to those charities, but generally speaking, charity does begin at home.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beefybake Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, I'm Brian said: The European Commission themselves have compiled a handy myth busting list https://blogs.ec.europa.eu/ECintheUK/euromyths-a-z-index/ Just for the record, I voted Remain, and still would. Within the link above , one of the subjects is 'acres'., and the apparent 'banning' of it by the EU. Here is the link.. https://blogs.ec.europa.eu/ECintheUK/acres-outlawed-by-brussels-2/ Right at the bottom is the rebuttal, which basically says that 'Hectare' as a replacement term for 'acre' has been used by the British government, and the Land Registry for 20 years in official records., and that the EU thing was only making official what was already established practice. Or to be more exact, the extension of this would now be that private landowners, and estate agents, could still refer to 'acres', but would also have to include 'hectares' in ads etc. The thing is, which is what a large part of what Brexit is all about, the average Joe, has had no input, or part in all this. Politics, government, officialdom .... far from the citizens. And media like the Telegraph, the Sun ... instead of asking questions , which is what proper journalism is actually about...... they just feed peoples' fears and prejudices. Edited January 23, 2019 by beefybake 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm Brian Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 (edited) 15 minutes ago, beefybake said: The thing is, which is what a large part of what Brexit is all about, the average Joe, has had no input, or part in all this. Politics, government, officialdom .... far from the citizens. That is the same for any form of government. It doesn't stop the average Joe from running for office, or campaigning and lobbying and trying to make change. Plenty have successfully done it. It's like me whining about being a fat git when I am full in the knowledge that I can get off my arse and do something about it...or at the very least try and do something about it Edited January 23, 2019 by I'm Brian 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 See also charities that pay their chief executives £100k+, comic relief/children in need telly appeal money going into investment portfolios that include arms and tobacco companies instead of directly helping people. It's a minefield donating ethically, best rule of thumb is keep it small and local.Charity can never meaningfully replace the state as an aid giving organisation. The problem is how to do your bit to help when the government is rapidly shedding all of its social responsibilities. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 1 minute ago, NotThePars said: Charity can never meaningfully replace the state as an aid giving organisation. The problem is how to do your bit to help when the government is rapidly shedding all of its social responsibilities. Bring down the government. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beefybake Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, I'm Brian said: That is the same for any form of government. It doesn't stop the average Joe from running for office, or campaigning and lobbying and trying to make change. Plenty have successfully done it. It's like me whining about being a fat git when I am full in the knowledge that I can get off my arse and do something about it...or at the very least try and do something about it I don't think so. Most of the time, most of us are just trying to earn a living, raise a family...... And what you're sidestepping ..., and justifying, is top down government. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 29 minutes ago, beefybake said: The thing is, which is what a large part of what Brexit is all about, the average Joe, has had no input, or part in all this. Maybe the average Joe could vote in the European elections, thus choosing the people who make these laws? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm Brian Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, beefybake said: I don't think so. Most of the time, most of us are just trying to earn a living, raise a family...... And what you're sidestepping ..., and justifying, is top down government. There are plenty out there earning a wage and raising families who campaign for many different things many of whom have been successful I'm not trying to and I never would attempt to justify a top down government. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Bring down the government.They don’t speak for us 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 24 minutes ago, Gaz said: Maybe the average Joe could vote in the European elections, thus choosing the people who make these laws? Would it have any effect though? The European elections are in a few months and there doesn't seem to be debate about the potential ramifications of the results. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Would it have any effect though? The European elections are in a few months and there doesn't seem to be debate about the potential ramifications of the results.Given that we probably won't have vote there wouldn't be much point. There's plenty debate about it in Europe, especially with the rise of the far right. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Jacksgranda said: In this day and age it's an absolute disgrace that children are dying of hunger and from drinking dirty water, I would give to those charities, but generally speaking, charity does begin at home.. What does this mean? That people who live within a certain radius of where you live are more worthy than those who live outside that radius? Postcode charity basically? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 There is definitely discussion than there was about national elections in the USA, Brazil, France or Italy. There is speculation about the size of the anti EU faction but nothing about what the legislative repercussions of the election will be. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 So Nicola is meeting with the PM this afternoon. I'd like to think she might ask if there is not going to be another referendum on Brexit, do you mind if we have another one on Independence? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 4 minutes ago, DA Baracus said: What does this mean? That people who live within a certain radius of where you live are more worthy than those who live outside that radius? Postcode charity basically? Charity is surely more effective when you can directly fund a good cause rather than funnelling the money through dubious multinationals and NGOs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 14 minutes ago, DA Baracus said: What does this mean? That people who live within a certain radius of where you live are more worthy than those who live outside that radius? Postcode charity basically? Not necessarily "more worthy", but if it was a choice between funding similar charities in Maghera or London, I know which one I'd choose. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Had to Google Maghera thinking it might be somewhere like South Sudan. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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