welshbairn Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 1 minute ago, Kneal Down Caster said: Chris Grayling coming out saying he is happy to just go for a no deal. That’s enough to scare the shit out of the whole country !!! That's a relief to me, he's fucked up everything he's tried to do. He even ran May's 2017 campaign. Revocation here we come! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted April 2, 2019 Author Share Posted April 2, 2019 Cabinet agreeing on no deal 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 Didn't the (vast?) majority of MPs vote against pretty much every alternative to No Deal in the indicative votes? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldbitterandgrumpy Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 3 minutes ago, NotThePars said: Didn't the (vast?) majority of MPs vote against pretty much every alternative to No Deal in the indicative votes? Indeed they did. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldbitterandgrumpy Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 15 minutes ago, welshbairn said: That's a relief to me, he's fucked up everything he's tried to do. He even ran May's 2017 campaign. Revocation here we come! Grayling should be an inspiration to every aspiring politician. No skill required. Just smile and blag your way through. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 (edited) https://twitter.com/joncraig/status/1113113981517008898 P.S. Parliament has just adjourned so think they failed. There were only ERG types left asking questions if that means anything. P.P.S. I was probably wrong. https://twitter.com/joncraig/status/1113118225670328322 Edited April 2, 2019 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 24 minutes ago, Kneal Down Caster said: Chris Grayling coming out saying he is happy to just go for a no deal. That’s enough to scare the shit out of the whole country !!! He's maybe found a shipping company that actually has some ships by now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donathan Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 Apparently the cabinet are being kettled inside number 10 without their phones while the PM writes a statement. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldbitterandgrumpy Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, welshbairn said: https://twitter.com/joncraig/status/1113113981517008898 Just out of interest, is there anything else going on in the Commons these days apart from Brexit? I mean, they are supposed to be running a country. Are any other matters being debated? Maybe Health, Housing , Transport, Universal Credit, whatever? Edited April 2, 2019 by oldbitterandgrumpy 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewDon Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 That Cooper/Letwin bill has more holes than Swiss cheese. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 Bercow letting the indicative votes come back for a third time is ridiculous. I keep on seeing people say the customs union lost by 2 votes but the government have another 40 votes in reserve. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jedi Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 (edited) Even after a 7 hour meeting she will probably just come out and waffle on about its 'her deal, no deal, or no Brexit (code for long extension', and er thats about it...for the 1000th time. Edited April 2, 2019 by Jedi 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, oldbitterandgrumpy said: Just out of interest, is there anything else going on in the Commons these days apart from Brexit? I mean, they are supposed to be running a country. Are any other matters being debated? Maybe Health, Housing ,Transport, Universal Credit, whatever? There is a debate on business rates going on at the moment. They had a debate about ethnic minority people on bank notes yesterday. Edited April 2, 2019 by Detournement 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 1 minute ago, oldbitterandgrumpy said: Just out of interest, is there anything else going on in the Commons these days apart from Brexit? I mean, they are supposed to be running a country. Are any other matters being debated? Maybe Health, Housing ,Transport, Universal Credit, whatever? There's a few post clerks in a basement in the Department for Digital, Culture, Media & Sport covering all that shite. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, Detournement said: Bercow letting the indicative votes come back for a third time is ridiculous. I keep on seeing people say the customs union lost by 2 votes but the government have another 40 votes in reserve. The Cabinet were ordered to abstain which probably canceled each other out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldbitterandgrumpy Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 1 minute ago, welshbairn said: There's a few post clerks in a basement in the Department for Digital, Culture, Media & Sport covering all that shite. Phew . . . they're on top of things. Praise the Lord. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jedi Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 Agree that dragging twice defeated indicative votes back for a third round on Monday is ridiculous tbh. That ship has sailed. Thing is, even if say CM 2.0 had gained support we haven't heard a peep from the govts of Switzerland, Norway, Iceland and Liechtenstein recently that they are even on board with this.With regard to CU, the EU have previously made it clear that they wont allow cherry picking and a half in/half out arrangement. So, even if one had passed it wasn't a guarantee. Long extension looks like the only current route. Presumably the EU will ask for either a GE or 2nd Ref. Can't see the Cabinet agreeing to a 2nd Ref, so GE it is. Irony being that said GE could produce a similar result, with a minority govt being propped up from where ever,and so the whole farce starts turning again where they can't be any agreement on anything, Only thing that could unblock the whole thing is if they do somehow push her deal through...of course its a bad deal, which I certainly don't support, (as is any deal to leave the worlds largest customs union), but just can't see anything else passing the Commons. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 The EU has no problem with a cherry picked, good only customs union with Turkey. I can't think why 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jedi Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 Yes, but they don't have the other parts of 'Mays deal' in place. It is a very bespoke arrangement for that specific country/situation. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooky Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 Agree that dragging twice defeated indicative votes back for a third round on Monday is ridiculous tbh. That ship has sailed. Thing is, even if say CM 2.0 had gained support we haven't heard a peep from the govts of Switzerland, Norway, Iceland and Liechtenstein recently that they are even on board with this.With regard to CU, the EU have previously made it clear that they wont allow cherry picking and a half in/half out arrangement. So, even if one had passed it wasn't a guarantee. Long extension looks like the only current route. Presumably the EU will ask for either a GE or 2nd Ref. Can't see the Cabinet agreeing to a 2nd Ref, so GE it is. Irony being that said GE could produce a similar result, with a minority govt being propped up from where ever,and so the whole farce starts turning again where they can't be any agreement on anything, Only thing that could unblock the whole thing is if they do somehow push her deal through...of course its a bad deal, which I certainly don't support, (as is any deal to leave the worlds largest customs union), but just can't see anything else passing the Commons. The Icelandic foreign minister was doing the UK media rounds a week or so ago, promoting the addition of the UK to EFTA. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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