ayrmad Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 22 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: When Brexit doesn’t happen will you be part of the Gammon uprising? If so please post some video of the event. You'll not be able to say much either way since you were one of the thicker than thicks that eased us into this shambles. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 Thankfully the BBC is eager to have its boy Nigel sweep the board at the Euro elections. Just had ten minutes of him promoting his “Brexit Party”.Regardless of your opinion of him, you can't deny that it's an important development. This party could do very, very well in the elections. I think I know the answer to this, but during his time as an MEP has Farage ever done anything of any note other than claim huge amounts in expenses?He's (almost single-handedly) created Brexit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 Talking of the promised civil unrest, should there not have been loads of riots by now over Brexit not happening by the end of March? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 30 minutes ago, ayrmad said: You'll not be able to say much either way since you were one of the thicker than thicks that eased us into this shambles. Not really an answer is it? I’m anxious to know if you will be part of the uprising. You certainly seem very vexed by the idea of Brexit not going ahead. (PS - it’s not going ahead. ) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 1 minute ago, pandarilla said: Regardless of your opinion of him, you can't deny that it's an important development. This party could do very, very well in the elections. He's (almost single-handedly) created Brexit. So you're saying he's ridden the gravy train, and is now preventing anyone else from doing the same? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 1 minute ago, DA Baracus said: Talking of the promised civil unrest, should there not have been loads of riots by now over Brexit not happening by the end of March? TBF there’s been quite a few good programmes on TV. You can’t expect the Gammons to revolt when there’s so much to watch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 So you're saying he's ridden the gravy train, and is now preventing anyone else from doing the same? I'm saying he's a shifty c**t that's always been on one gravy train or another. But you can't deny he's had an enormous impact on British politics. He's found, in my opinion, justifiable issues with the EU, and distilled it down to an 'average little Englander' level. And supposedly this party isn't just about Brexit. His speech today attacked career politicians, and the connections between big city interests and the government. Those are some pretty big truths. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, pandarilla said: I'm saying he's a shifty c**t that's always been on one gravy train or another. But you can't deny he's had an enormous impact on British politics. He's found, in my opinion, justifiable issues with the EU, and distilled it down to an 'average little Englander' level. And supposedly this party isn't just about Brexit. His speech today attacked career politicians, and the connections between big city interests and the government. Those are some pretty big truths. he’s a dime store Trump (like the apt Americanism?) He will peddle the same pish whilst having the same interests. Fortunately he will not get the level of support Trump did. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, pandarilla said: I'm saying he's a shifty c**t that's always been on one gravy train or another. But you can't deny he's had an enormous impact on British politics.He's found, in my opinion, justifiable issues with the EU, and distilled it down to an 'average little Englander' level. And supposedly this party isn't just about Brexit. His speech today attacked career politicians, and the connections between big city interests and the government. Those are some pretty big truths. TBH, my question was about what he has actually done as an MEP, rather than what has Nigel Farage the politician done. They are two completely separate entities for me. With regard to the bolded bit, has he ever attempted to do anything about it at the European level? Or has he just come back here and played to the xenephobia of the English? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bob Mahelp Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, pandarilla said: I'm saying he's a shifty c**t that's always been on one gravy train or another. But you can't deny he's had an enormous impact on British politics. He's found, in my opinion, justifiable issues with the EU, and distilled it down to an 'average little Englander' level. And supposedly this party isn't just about Brexit. His speech today attacked career politicians, and the connections between big city interests and the government. Those are some pretty big truths. Farage is the ultimate populist. Even he was probably stunned that the constant outrageous lies that he screamed before the referendum managed to influence so many people, but I dare say now that he's seen his populist garbage work once, he's thinking why not try it again ? On top of that, he has the added experience of seeing Trump's blatant populist campaign work in the States, so I wouldn't underestimate the devious, scheming little snake. I notice as well that 5Live gave big licks to the unveiling of his new party, so it seems that he still has the BBC tied around his little finger. That's half the battle. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 TBH, my question was about what he has actually done as an MEP, rather than what has Nigel Farage the politician done. They are two completely separate entities for me. With regard to the bolded bit, has he ever attempted to do anything about it at the European level? Or has he just come back here and played to the xenephobia of the English?Was he not quite open about his approach to being an MEP? I could be wrong but I thought he always felt the organisation was beyond repair, and so his role was one of sabotage. I think that's why folk voted for him. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 Thankfully the BBC is eager to have its boy Nigel sweep the board at the Euro elections. Just had ten minutes of him promoting his “Brexit Party”.I hate how that c**t just gets an unchallenged free ride by the MSM.His blokey man in the pub act is so fucking false. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 17 minutes ago, pandarilla said: Regardless of your opinion of him, you can't deny that it's an important development. This party could do very, very well in the elections. He's (almost single-handedly) created Brexit. They will if the Beeb has anything to say about it. If they hadn’t turned him into a media darling he’d not have had anything like the impact or prominence (far higher than any electoral success he’s ever had) he has. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, Bob Mahelp said: Farage is the ultimate populist. Even he was probably stunned that the constant outrageous lies that he screamed before the referendum managed to influence so many people, but I dare say now that he's seen his populist garbage work once, he's thinking why not try it again ? On top of that, he has the added experience of seeing Trump's blatant populist campaign work in the States, so I wouldn't underestimate the devious, scheming little snake. I notice as well that 5Live gave big licks to the unveiling of his new party, so it seems that he still has the BBC tied around his little finger. That's half the battle. As much as I dislike FPTP it will keep Farage well away from any chance of influence in Westminster. He could pick up seats in the Euros but MEPs have little power. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 Farage is the ultimate populist. Even he was probably stunned that the constant outrageous lies that he screamed before the referendum managed to influence so many people, but I dare say now that he's seen his populist garbage work once, he's thinking why not try it again ? On top of that, he has the added experience of seeing Trump's blatant populist campaign work in the States, so I wouldn't underestimate the devious, scheming little snake. I notice as well that 5Live gave big licks to the unveiling of his new party, so it seems that he still has the BBC tied around his little finger. That's half the battle. I think he genuinely believes it though.Trump hasn't got a fucking clue, and seems to roll with whatever someone tells him on each particular day. You could tell he was openly bullshitting thick Americans. But I think farage sees himself as on a mission. He's sticking up for the little guy, against the forces of the establishment. He's the true leader of little England, and very proud of that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 16 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: Not really an answer is it? I’m anxious to know if you will be part of the uprising. You certainly seem very vexed by the idea of Brexit not going ahead. (PS - it’s not going ahead. ) I've actually no great interest other than how it affects independence, can't say I'm too confident at the moment, SNP appear to be ploughing on regardless, obviously not learned from cornering the YES campaign as their own. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 As much as I dislike FPTP it will keep Farage well away from any chance of influence in Westminster. He could pick up seats in the Euros but MEPs have little power.If he galvanises Brexit fully then fptp might not stop him. Remember the night that the scottish referendum broke the fptp system in Scotland. That would be a huge turnaround, granted, but it's not impossible - especially if the government keeps kicking this down the road. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 He's (almost single-handedly) created Brexit.I think he had a wee bit of help . . . . . . 40+ years of negative stories about the EU in the Mail, Express and Murdoch press played a bigger part methinks! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewDon Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 Farage doesn't need to be an MP to have influence at Westminster. That we are in the position we are in now is testament to his influence on Westminster politics over the last decade. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 His speech today attacked career politicians, and the connections between big city interests and the government. Those are some pretty big truths.Attacking himself then?Kettle, pot and black comes to mind - the man is a hypocrite of the first degree. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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