Granny Danger Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 20 minutes ago, DrewDon said: What was it? That a GE at this time is very likely to hand Johnson a majority and with that majority he will be able to impose the type of Brexit he wants. Also he will not grant a further Independence Referendum. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 That a GE at this time is very likely to hand Johnson a majority and with that majority he will be able to impose the type of Brexit he wants. Also he will not grant a further Independence Referendum. He will. We are next for his rabid, xenophobic base. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, Bairnardo said: 4 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: That a GE at this time is very likely to hand Johnson a majority and with that majority he will be able to impose the type of Brexit he wants. Also he will not grant a further Independence Referendum. He will. We are next for his rabid, xenophobic base. No he won’t. However rabid and xenophobic they are they would re-establish the British Empire tomorrow if they could. I would offer you a bet on Johnson not granting IndyRef2 but I honestly think it’s too important an issue to trivialise. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Call me suspicious but why does the Government need to draw up a "virtually identical" one-line bill?Why not just support the SNP-Lib Dem bill?Or will there be some subtle wording in the Government that allows them to do something sneaky?Wouldn't be surprised if it was the latter.The SNP should only support a General Election on the basis they have outlined - nothing more nothing less. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: Call me suspicious but why does the Government need to draw up a "virtually identical" one-line bill? Why not just support the SNP-Lib Dem bill? Or will there be some subtle wording in the Government that allows them to do something sneaky? Wouldn't be surprised if it was the latter. The SNP should only support a General Election on the basis they have outlined - nothing more nothing less. Probably because it’s far easier for the government to introduce a Bill. Though I share your scepticism. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 I agree with WTF. If the SNP were assured of being able to hold IndyRef2 then their support for this would be understandable. Sadly there is no such assurance. I’m beginning to think that Swinson is a double agent. https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/jo-swinson-lib-dems-boris-johnson-snp-bill-election-december-9-a9174536.html I have heard enough of Swinson’s facile, naive, unworldly arguments about the timings of a December election – how no one can ever future proof anything about no deal Brexit, about how a Liberal Democrat government would sort everything out by revoking Article 50 as soon as Swinson arrived in Downing Street. It’s cobblers, of course. I thought Jeremy Corbynwas useless until Swinson started talking about a 9 December general election. Frankly, she makes Corbyn look like Tony Blair. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: I agree with WTF. If the SNP were assured of being able to hold IndyRef2 then their support for this would be understandable. Sadly there is no such assurance. I’m beginning to think that Swinson is a double agent. https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/jo-swinson-lib-dems-boris-johnson-snp-bill-election-december-9-a9174536.html I have heard enough of Swinson’s facile, naive, unworldly arguments about the timings of a December election – how no one can ever future proof anything about no deal Brexit, about how a Liberal Democrat government would sort everything out by revoking Article 50 as soon as Swinson arrived in Downing Street. It’s cobblers, of course. I thought Jeremy Corbynwas useless until Swinson started talking about a 9 December general election. Frankly, she makes Corbyn look like Tony Blair. Sean O'Grady who voted Leave and helped get us into this mess. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Corbyn at his worse in his reply to Johnson. Makes a good speech to a friendly audience, utterly useless to a hostile one. Tbf he's got his hands tied behind his back, wanting a GE but the PLP bottling it, or not wanting one until they get shot of him. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted October 28, 2019 Author Share Posted October 28, 2019 Not sure Corbyn understands how stupid he really is. Labour haemorrhaging support 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewDon Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Thing is, most people don't obsess about the nuances of political processes like folk on this sub-forum, so Labour's position looks completely insane: repeatedly going on about how terrible Johnson and this Tory government are, but turning down every chance to get rid of him and giving him a free pass to stay in office for longer than necessary. It just looks and sounds like woeful politics. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 I don't think it matters who leads Labour at this point. England is a vile racist backwater shitehole and will go Tory regardless of who leads Labour. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 5 minutes ago, DrewDon said: Thing is, most people don't obsess about the nuances of political processes like folk on this sub-forum, so Labour's position looks completely insane: repeatedly going on about how terrible Johnson and this Tory government are, but turning down every chance to get rid of him and giving him a free pass to stay in office for longer than necessary. It just looks and sounds like woeful politics. Sadly that is true and could probably be applied to every discussion on here. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Ian Blackford.... Demonstrating what Corbyn should be doing. Brilliant speech. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted October 28, 2019 Author Share Posted October 28, 2019 Well done Iain Blackford 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Swinson not really commanding much respect droning on and on, without actually saying anything. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Swinson arguing that the best way to stop Brexit is to hold a GE that will almost definitely give Johnson a majority, What a fucking tube. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Thought she did a lot better than usual, which isn't saying very much. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 29 minutes ago, ICTJohnboy said: Swinson not really commanding much respect droning on and on, without actually saying anything. Politicians, what are they like? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Jacksgranda said: Politicians, what are they like? Some are better than others. I've had to stop watching the debate now. Strictly's just come on - I know my place. Edited October 28, 2019 by ICTJohnboy 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambomo Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Johnson really is the biggest fud in the world. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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