Dan Steele Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 Taking back control, strong & stable, oven-ready deals, World leader, etc, etc: The government’s new science minister has said the UK is “more than ready to go it alone” if there is no resolution to the stalemate over taking part in the EU’s flagship research programme. Brussels has so far blocked Britain’s requests to join the €100bn (£88.6bn) Horizon Europe programme because of a dispute over the Northern Ireland protocol 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 41 minutes ago, The Skelpit Lug said: Taking back control, strong & stable, oven-ready deals, World leader, etc, etc: The government’s new science minister has said the UK is “more than ready to go it alone” if there is no resolution to the stalemate over taking part in the EU’s flagship research programme. Brussels has so far blocked Britain’s requests to join the €100bn (£88.6bn) Horizon Europe programme because of a dispute over the Northern Ireland protocol I’m sure during the separatists’ Brexit campaign, Johnson pledged his own research program - with flapjack, and hookers. Unfortunately, he promptly forgot the research program and the flapjack. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florentine_Pogen Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 1 hour ago, The Skelpit Lug said: Taking back control, strong & stable, oven-ready deals, World leader, etc, etc: The government’s new science minister has said the UK is “more than ready to go it alone” if there is no resolution to the stalemate over taking part in the EU’s flagship research programme. Brussels has so far blocked Britain’s requests to join the €100bn (£88.6bn) Horizon Europe programme because of a dispute over the Northern Ireland protocol https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/feb/12/eu-horizon-europe-research-michelle-donelan-uk-snub-brexit "James Wilsdon, a professor of research policy at UCL, said: “While it’s sensible that Michelle Donelan is ramping up preparations for life outside Horizon Europe, she needs to temper her ‘plan B’ hubris with a dose of realism. As any researcher knows, you can’t simply swap out one set of collaborative relationships, built up over decades, for new and different ones elsewhere – particularly as a product of political diktat. That’s not how science works. “There’s no scenario in which life outside Horizon will be good for UK science. The sooner ministers stop pretending that it could be, and drop the ‘science superpower’ froth in favour of a level-headed assessment of UK options and priorities, the better. The policy goal should remain association. In absence of that, it’s all about damage limitation.” 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florentine_Pogen Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/feb/13/david-frost-urges-uk-embrace-brexit-plot-unravel-deal I'm still waiting to find out about these ethereal 'Brexit advantages'. Does anyone know what they are ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 9 minutes ago, Florentine_Pogen said: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/feb/13/david-frost-urges-uk-embrace-brexit-plot-unravel-deal I'm still waiting to find out about these ethereal 'Brexit advantages'. Does anyone know what they are ? It's disingenuous of remoaners to pretend that there are no benefits. Black passports that everyone calls blue passports. I think the UK/ Japan deal is better for Stilton exporters than the EU /Japan deal. And lower capital requirements for insurers, so bigger dividends for the wealthy. Plus we can have as much shit on the beach as we want. If that's not worth stalling the economy, breaking science and academia, becoming an international laughing stock and risking war in Northern Ireland then i don't know what is. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullerene Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 49 minutes ago, coprolite said: It's disingenuous of remoaners to pretend that there are no benefits. Black passports that everyone calls blue passports. I think the UK/ Japan deal is better for Stilton exporters than the EU /Japan deal. And lower capital requirements for insurers, so bigger dividends for the wealthy. Plus we can have as much shit on the beach as we want. If that's not worth stalling the economy, breaking science and academia, becoming an international laughing stock and risking war in Northern Ireland then i don't know what is. Can you please clarify? Do you mean Stilton exporters as in exporters who live in Stilton or do you mean Stilton cheese exporters? As everybody already knows, Stilton cheese cannot be legally made in Stilton village because of some dastardly EU regulation called "Protected Designation of Origin (PDO)" which states that it can only be made in Derbyshire, Leicestershire or Nottinghamshire. If somebody tried to make it in Stilton village, which is in Cambridgeshire then it would have to be called something else. This is one of those nonsense laws that we can dispense with. You can now set up a Stilton cheese factory in Stilton village and maybe a Scotch Whisky Distillery as well. Possibly some Orkney Fudge as well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MazzyStar Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, coprolite said: If that's not worth stalling the economy, breaking science and academia, becoming an international laughing stock and risking war in Northern Ireland then i don't know what is. Talk about scaremongering… Edited February 13, 2023 by MazzyStar 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 36 minutes ago, Fullerene said: Can you please clarify? Do you mean Stilton exporters as in exporters who live in Stilton or do you mean Stilton cheese exporters? As everybody already knows, Stilton cheese cannot be legally made in Stilton village because of some dastardly EU regulation called "Protected Designation of Origin (PDO)" which states that it can only be made in Derbyshire, Leicestershire or Nottinghamshire. If somebody tried to make it in Stilton village, which is in Cambridgeshire then it would have to be called something else. This is one of those nonsense laws that we can dispense with. You can now set up a Stilton cheese factory in Stilton village and maybe a Scotch Whisky Distillery as well. Possibly some Orkney Fudge as well. Good news, it's all fresh cheese! As opposed to hard cheeses apparently. To access a quota that is potentially 50x larger than our entire cheese export to Japan, we just need to hope that the EU don't use it all. But it is good news because we would have lost it altogether without the trade deal. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 16 minutes ago, MazzyStar said: Talk about scaremongering… Ok: Britain is at breaking point because barmy Brussels bureaucrats want to force us all to eat straight bananas while Romanians take all the benefits and school places. How's that? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MazzyStar Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 1 minute ago, coprolite said: Ok: Britain is at breaking point because barmy Brussels bureaucrats want to force us all to eat straight bananas while Romanians take all the benefits and school places. How's that? No. I was talking about your pish about “risking a war in Northern Ireland” and “becoming an international laughing stock”. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 3 minutes ago, MazzyStar said: No. I was talking about your pish about “risking a war in Northern Ireland” and “becoming an international laughing stock”. Sorry. We are of course already an international laughing stock. "war" maybe a tad hyperbolic but there's a reasonable chance that the peace process gets derailed for this nonsense. I doubt the strategy of hoping really, really hard is going to acheive its desired effect. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 8 minutes ago, MazzyStar said: And? The main reason for Britain being a laughing stock is still having a monarchy, not brexit. Britain should be a pariah and a laughing stock anyway given hundreds of years of history and peoples continued support for the instituons ,like the monarchy, implicated in this history. Different symptom, same disease. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirkieRR Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 15 minutes ago, MazzyStar said: And? The main reason for Britain being a laughing stock is still having a monarchy, not brexit. Britain should be a pariah and a laughing stock anyway given hundreds of years of history and peoples continued support for the instituons ,like the monarchy, implicated in this history. Riiigggghhht..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salvo Montalbano Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 Spain, Denmark, the Netherlands etc all being well known laughing stocks on account of their monarchies right enough. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MazzyStar Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 28 minutes ago, Salvo Montalbano said: Spain, Denmark, the Netherlands etc all being well known laughing stocks on account of their monarchies right enough. People outside the EU don’t think Britain is a laughing stock because of brexit, they don’t care about it. Many will think Britain having a monarchy is much worse for the countries image than brexit especially in India and other places pillaged by Britain. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonapersona Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 23 minutes ago, MazzyStar said: People outside the EU don’t think Britain is a laughing stock because of brexit, they don’t care about it. Many will think Britain having a monarchy is much worse for the countries image than brexit especially in India and other places pillaged by Britain. I've had more than a few comments about Brexit. It's hardly a secret. You're right about them not caring though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullerene Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 5 hours ago, Salvo Montalbano said: Spain, Denmark, the Netherlands etc all being well known laughing stocks on account of their monarchies right enough. Yes there are other countries with monarchies but can you instantly say whether the current monarch is a king or a queen, do you even know their name and how long they have been in the role. The monarchy is an issue but what is worse is the millions of people who happily accept a servile role for themselves and think the Royal Family are entitled to everything they have got. Everything is with refers to the Royal Family - the "United Kingdom", GSTK, the Royal Navy, the Royal Air Force, the Royal Society for people who want to complain about something. (I made that last one up). What other country has the King living in a grand palace while the prime minister lives down some side street. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 BBC News - Home Office accepts court defeat on EU citizens scheme https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-64663795 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MazzyStar Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 (edited) https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2023/02/15/ruoc-f15.html The racist EU has once again ramped up its attacks on migrants, making the lives of people already in a terrible situation even worse. Just days after, this happens:https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-64680538 Every time the EU does this human trafficking will get worse. Of course you won’t hear James O’Brien and the rest of the FBPE clowns mention this, they’ll just continue to say that anyone that voted for brexit is a thick racist that probably lives in a shithole. Edited February 18, 2023 by MazzyStar 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 21 hours ago, MazzyStar said: https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2023/02/15/ruoc-f15.html The racist EU has once again ramped up its attacks on migrants, making the lives of people already in a terrible situation even worse. Just days after, this happens:https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-64680538 Every time the EU does this human trafficking will get worse. Of course you won’t hear James O’Brien and the rest of the FBPE clowns mention this, they’ll just continue to say that anyone that voted for brexit is a thick racist that probably lives in a shithole. Are you suggesting that anyone voted to leave the EU because they thought the EU's immigration policy was too harsh? I think you'll find that despite the EU being quite stringent, it just wasn't stringent enough for tge thick racists. You're right though, not all thick racists live in shitholes. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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