John Lambies Doos Posted December 30, 2017 Author Share Posted December 30, 2017 Powerful stuff from Lord Adonis.http://metro.co.uk/2017/12/30/who-is-lord-adonis-read-his-resignation-letter-in-full-7191936/ Brexit makes me sick but are we supposed to oppose democracy? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 11 minutes ago, John Lambies Doos said: Brexit makes me sick but are we supposed to oppose democracy? Given they were sold a false prospectus they should be given a chance to reconsider. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WILLIEA Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 23 minutes ago, John Lambies Doos said: Brexit makes me sick but are we supposed to oppose democracy? That wasn't democracy. It was more like sedition. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 1 hour ago, welshbairn said: Given they were sold a false prospectus they should be given a chance to reconsider. You could say that about almost every election though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 4 minutes ago, DA Baracus said: You could say that about almost every election though. And we get to reconsider every few years. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sureiknow Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 6 hours ago, welshbairn said: Given they were sold a false prospectus they should be given a chance to reconsider. It would be an overwhelming vote to leave if it was reheld. Especially with all the shite the EU has come out with. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 10 minutes ago, sureiknow said: It would be an overwhelming vote to leave if it was reheld. Especially with all the shite the EU has come out with. The polls say 50/50. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sureiknow Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 1 minute ago, welshbairn said: The polls say 50/50. And what did the polls say the last time! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 (edited) 11 minutes ago, sureiknow said: And what did the polls say the last time! "We're not sure, see how it works out and ask us again." 52-48 is not a definitive mandate forever, particularly using a method alien to our custom of representative democracy, a random opinion poll to settle arguments within a political party. Edited December 30, 2017 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sureiknow Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 21 minutes ago, welshbairn said: "We're not sure, see how it works out and ask us again." 52-48 is not a definitive mandate forever, particularly using a method alien to our custom of representative democracy, a random opinion poll to settle arguments within a political party. I'm not saying it should never be rerun but maybe in another 30 years. Diane Abbott thinks it would be 58% to 52%. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 16 minutes ago, sureiknow said: I'm not saying it should never be rerun but maybe in another 30 years. Diane Abbott thinks it would be 58% to 52%. Aye well Diane's arithmetic isn't her one of her strong points. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WILLIEA Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 1 hour ago, welshbairn said: The polls say 50/50. The few polls I've seen recently have varied between 60/40 to 55/45 in favour of remain. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lichtgilphead Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 32 minutes ago, sureiknow said: I'm not saying it should never be rerun but maybe in another 30 years. Diane Abbott thinks it would be 58% to 52%. Did Abbot actually say that, or have you made an arithmetical error in your post? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 1 minute ago, WILLIEA said: The few polls I've seen recently have varied between 60/40 to 55/45 in favour of remain. Thought so too but when I googled it didn't seem so clear cut. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WILLIEA Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 7 minutes ago, welshbairn said: Thought so too but when I googled it didn't seem so clear cut. Yes! Probably depends which polls you look at. Mind you, if the brexit backing pollsters are polling from 110% seems a bit lopsided imo. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sureiknow Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 17 minutes ago, lichtgilphead said: Did Abbot actually say that, or have you made an arithmetical error in your post? It was a joke though she maybe would. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartsOfficialMoaner Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 I like the Home Office idea of vigilantes/volunteers guarding the UK borders. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 3 hours ago, HeartsOfficialMoaner said: I like the Home Office idea of vigilantes/volunteers guarding the UK borders. The idea of unqualified and inexperienced folk doing jobs relating to the nation’s security might be a good one. I reckon I could be defence secretary. Anyone fancy Chief of Defence Staff? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Im in 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Maybe we could persuade some Eastern Europeans to come over and do it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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