NotThePars Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 17 minutes ago, Mark Connolly said: Dorries on Daily Politics claiming it's not in-fighting, it's debate. She also said that the ERG weren't holding the Government to ransom, minutes after pointing out that there were 60 of them and they have the numbers to make an impact. Then accused the Electoral Commission of pro-Remain bias. Absolute slaverer as per. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 1 minute ago, NotThePars said: Then accused the Electoral Commission of pro-Remain bias. Absolute slaverer as per. I don't know if she likes football, but she has to be an Old Firm fan. Whataboutery all over the shop. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted July 17, 2018 Author Share Posted July 17, 2018 Genuine Question, When are the first blue passports due to be issued? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Depends how long the customs queues are at Calais when we import them from France. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted July 17, 2018 Author Share Posted July 17, 2018 Depends how long the customs queues are at Calais when we import them from France.Tres bien mon ami, mes c'etait un question genuine. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 I doubt there will be a set date until Brexit is resolved. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted July 17, 2018 Author Share Posted July 17, 2018 I doubt there will be a set date until Brexit is resolved.I thought there was something about Autumn this year? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 The government could be defeated tonight if the Lib-Dems show up and enough Tories hold their nerves. Big if btw. Mogg and his cronies would go into meltdown. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: The government could be defeated tonight if the Lib-Dems show up and enough Tories hold their nerves. Big if btw. Mogg and his cronies would go into meltdown. It's a fairly flaccid amendment though. If the common goods area isn't agreed by 19th of January then the government has to TRY and negotiate a customs union..... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTG Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 16 minutes ago, John Lambies Doos said: 18 minutes ago, welshbairn said: I doubt there will be a set date until Brexit is resolved. I thought there was something about Autumn this year? The format of Brexit needs to be agreed by end of October at the latest to ensure that whatever the model is, it can kick in from March 19. There is a fair bit of work to be done to be ready for whatever scenario unfolds. It's not just a question of Govt being ready to roll next March - everyone who transacts with the EU will need to be ready. That's a lot of trade. Even without the physical evidence of queues at ports, the costs of complying with the need to declare every single transaction where currently none exists is massive - that's where the £20bn business costs come from. Declarations will go up by a factor of 5. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Some outstanding knowledge of the process by 'the master' in these last few pages. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 The format of Brexit needs to be agreed by end of October at the latest to ensure that whatever the model is, it can kick in from March 19. There is a fair bit of work to be done to be ready for whatever scenario unfolds. It's not just a question of Govt being ready to roll next March - everyone who transacts with the EU will need to be ready. That's a lot of trade. Even without the physical evidence of queues at ports, the costs of complying with the need to declare every single transaction where currently none exists is massive - that's where the £20bn business costs come from. Declarations will go up by a factor of 5.Did they not agree a 2 or so year delay until a new regime is implemented? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted July 17, 2018 Author Share Posted July 17, 2018 Did they not agree a 2 or so year delay until a new regime is implemented? Only if there's a deal, ie no deal no transition period 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Jagsfan Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 46 minutes ago, welshbairn said: Depends how long the customs queues are at Calais when we import them from France. Are the new blue passports not being made by some company in Holland? Put them all on a container on a lorry and stick them on Eurostar before 29 March, and no problems, they will be in before we are out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted July 17, 2018 Author Share Posted July 17, 2018 Good Article, confirms why chequers is now dead in water after last nights voteshttps://www.rte.ie/news/brexit/2018/0717/979206-brexit-politics/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTG Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 47 minutes ago, welshbairn said: 59 minutes ago, HTG said: The format of Brexit needs to be agreed by end of October at the latest to ensure that whatever the model is, it can kick in from March 19. There is a fair bit of work to be done to be ready for whatever scenario unfolds. It's not just a question of Govt being ready to roll next March - everyone who transacts with the EU will need to be ready. That's a lot of trade. Even without the physical evidence of queues at ports, the costs of complying with the need to declare every single transaction where currently none exists is massive - that's where the £20bn business costs come from. Declarations will go up by a factor of 5. Did they not agree a 2 or so year delay until a new regime is implemented? As JLD suggests, only if there is a deal. But even then, you'd need the deal signed off well in advance of March 19 because some stuff may need to stop immediately or preparations made to do things differently. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted July 17, 2018 Author Share Posted July 17, 2018 I think that the March 19th deadline will just be kicked along the road tbh. What's to stop them just extending article 50 resignation period? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 I think that the March 19th deadline will just be kicked along the road tbh. What's to stop them just extending article 50 resignation period? Nothing if the other 27 countries agree. You're probably right. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted July 17, 2018 Author Share Posted July 17, 2018 Nothing if the other 27 countries agree. You're probably right.Would the UK not have to keep paying and sit on committees and actually be members then? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Would the UK not have to keep paying and sit on committees and actually be members then?Yes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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