btb Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 13 hours ago, HeartsOfficialMoaner said: Theresa is a remainer and she is playing a good game. Se wasn't always- here's a headline from The Independent in Nov 2015! Quote EU referendum: Theresa May could lead 'Out' campaign after Nigel Farage says he'd be 'delighted' if she took the role It was a bit of a surprise when she chose to support Remain, she made one speech only during the campaign, keeping a low profile - after Cameron resigned she was seen as someone who could bring the two wings of the Conservative Party together. Just as cynical as BoJo - bet she wishes she hadn't bothered now! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTG Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 37 minutes ago, btb said: Se wasn't always- here's a headline from The Independent in Nov 2015! It was a bit of a surprise when she chose to support Remain, she made one speech only during the campaign, keeping a low profile - after Cameron resigned she was seen as someone who could bring the two wings of the Conservative Party together. Just as cynical as BoJo - bet she wishes she hadn't bothered now! She was a conniving boot. Invisible as a senior member of the govt. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BawWatchin Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 2 hours ago, btb said: Se wasn't always- here's a headline from The Independent in Nov 2015! It was a bit of a surprise when she chose to support Remain, she made one speech only during the campaign, keeping a low profile - after Cameron resigned she was seen as someone who could bring the two wings of the Conservative Party together. Just as cynical as BoJo - bet she wishes she hadn't bothered now! She was a hard brexiter right from the very start. She never really picked either side publically, as she knew there was a great chance of becoming leader as long as she didn't alienate any of the tories at the time. I doubt she has any regrets to be honest. She wanted to be in the position of forcing a hard brexit, while making it look like she was trying desperately to get a deal. It was planned all along. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londonwell Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 4 hours ago, Detournement said: Only if the Withdrawal Bill clearly defines the post transition relationship. If it's wishwashy about that then UKIP are back and the same splits remain in the two main parties. May has two feasible options; Customs Union Brexit and tearing her party in two. Or, No deal Brexit and all the fun that will bring. It’ll be her choice but she is fucked in either scenario. It’s getting close to the end game for her. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 There's no plan from anybody that doesn't leave us much worse off than than staying in. It's like the Emperor's new clothes story, why is anyone still playing along with it, other than those who have sent all their investments offshore and short selling the UK economy, like Rees Mogg and John Redwood as a tiny minimum? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted October 19, 2018 Author Share Posted October 19, 2018 Mad cow disease at Scottish farm uncovered at the same time they want to sell a border down the Irish sea.Interesting..... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 We are facing an increasing number of Brexiteer MPs claiming that they are being told by their constituents "just get on with it". Sadly there is at least one opinion poll I have seen that supports that. ANYONE who's attitude to Brexit is "just get on with it" regardless of the outcome should be stripped of the right to vote. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandstand Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 2 hours ago, John Lambies Doos said: Mad cow disease at Scottish farm uncovered at the same time they want to sell a border down the Irish sea. Interesting..... Watch uniomists clamour to be treated separately than the rest of the uk if its an outbreak 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 2 hours ago, Granny Danger said: We are facing an increasing number of Brexiteer MPs claiming that they are being told by their constituents "just get on with it". Sadly there is at least one opinion poll I have seen that supports that. ANYONE who's attitude to Brexit is "just get on with it" regardless of the outcome should be stripped of the right to vote. I've encountered any amount of them in this part of the world (Burnley and Greater Manchester)- In pubs, golf clubs, neighbours, etc, etc.... As soon as I hear these words I always respond with "What? You mean get on with it and leave without a deal?" The reply is always yes. One guy told me just last night that we are British, and we've fought greater battles than this! Fucking'ell. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 8 minutes ago, ICTJohnboy said: I've encountered any amount of them in this part of the world (Burnley and Greater Manchester)- In pubs, golf clubs, neighbours, etc, etc.... As soon as I hear these words I always respond with "What? You mean get on with it and leave without a deal?" The reply is always yes. One guy told me just last night that we are British, and we've fought greater battles than this! Fucking'ell. It really tests my faith in the democratic process. These folk deserve the worst excesses of a No Deal Brexit, sadly it will apply to all of us and not just them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 (edited) Theresa May : "What has now emerged is the idea that an option to extend the implementation period could be a further solution to this issue of the backstop in Northern Ireland" These words just don't make sense. What does she mean by a "further solution"? Why would extending the implementation period solve anything? Edited October 19, 2018 by ICTJohnboy 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dee_62 Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, ICTJohnboy said: Theresa May : "What has now emerged is the idea that an option to extend the implementation period could be a further solution to this issue of the backstop in Northern Ireland" These words just don't make sense. What does she mean by a "further solution"? Why would extending the implementation period solve anything? think she meant to say "final solution" Be afraid NI. Edited October 19, 2018 by dee_62 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Given the fact that a majoirty in NI voted Remain I am astounded that there is not a greater demand for a United Ireland. In the eyes of the public there is arguably more of a prima facie case for this than for Scottish Independence. It would certainly removed the need for a backstop. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted October 19, 2018 Author Share Posted October 19, 2018 Given the fact that a majoirty in NI voted Remain I am astounded that there is not a greater demand for a United Ireland. In the eyes of the public there is arguably more of a prima facie case for this than for Scottish Independence. It would certainly removed the need for a backstop. Not much of an appetite in ROI 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 1 hour ago, John Lambies Doos said: 1 hour ago, Granny Danger said: Given the fact that a majoirty in NI voted Remain I am astounded that there is not a greater demand for a United Ireland. In the eyes of the public there is arguably more of a prima facie case for this than for Scottish Independence. It would certainly removed the need for a backstop. Not much of an appetite in ROI You can hardly blame them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DublinMagyar Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Not much of an appetite in ROICorrect 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BawWatchin Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 1 hour ago, John Lambies Doos said: Not much of an appetite in ROI I was going to..... but I probably shouldn't. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 (edited) I found this quite interesting. I can recall at the height of "The Troubles" when the British Army went into Northern Ireland, the plan was to protect the substantial catholic minority. The times they are a changing.... https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/protestantcatholic-gap-narrows-as-census-results-revealed-29004134.html Edited October 19, 2018 by ICTJohnboy 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dee_62 Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 2 hours ago, ICTJohnboy said: I've encountered any amount of them in this part of the world (Burnley and Greater Manchester)- In pubs, golf clubs, neighbours, etc, etc.... As soon as I hear these words I always respond with "What? You mean get on with it and leave without a deal?" The reply is always yes. One guy told me just last night that we are British, and we've fought greater battles than this! Fucking'ell. If they're wanting to leave without a deal, we don't need to "just get on with it" surely? Article 50 was triggered and we're leaving the EU in March next year regardless of getting a deal or not. We can't leave any sooner. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, dee_62 said: If they're wanting to leave without a deal, we don't need to "just get on with it" surely? Article 50 was triggered and we're leaving the EU in March next year regardless of getting a deal or not. We can't leave any sooner. If anything Article 50 should be extended. What I was trying to say was there would be little point in extending the implementation period from March next year, when we don't know what kind of a deal (if any) will be implemented. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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