ICTJohnboy Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 1 minute ago, Granny Danger said: Alternately she can ignore Spain and reap the issues further down the line. Like she does with Scotland? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colkitto Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 (edited) 23 minutes ago, welshbairn said: Read article 50 that I posted, it's not much longer than a text message. Just reading the BBC website report and it says "Spain has said it will not agree to the Brexit deal unless changes are made to the wording over Gibraltar. Bit confusing to say the least.. Edited November 21, 2018 by Colkitto 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BawWatchin Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 1 minute ago, Colkitto said: Just reading the BBC website reort and it says "Spain has said it will not agree to the Brexit deal unless changes are made to the wording over Gibraltar. Bit confusing to say the least.. So they want a change of wording, but definition isn't important? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colkitto Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 Another quote Sanchez says Spain will "exercise its veto right." 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, Colkitto said: Just reading the BBC website reort and it says "Spain has said it will not agree to the Brexit deal unless changes are made to the wording over Gibraltar. Bit confusing to say the least.. Spain wants the final arrangement for Gibraltar to be settled between the UK and Spain, not the UK and the EU. They don't have a veto on the Withdrawal document though, as the Spanish Foreign Minister admitted a couple of days ago. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 It will be interesting to see if the other EU countries want to force through the agreement on a qualified majority vote. Despite all the comments early on from the U.K. government about the internal EU divisions the EU27 have been pretty united up to now. I think they would prefer to keep it that way. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 (edited) Gibraltar voted 98% I think for remaining in the EU. They'd love a deal where they can stay in the single market and part of the UK, even if rUK isn't. If the Spanish don't get too Nationalist about it all it should be easy to sort with a bit of wording change. The Spanish don't want their claim to sovereignty over Gibraltar to be written out of history by it's fate being settled in a new treaty between EU/UK. We're not talking heads gone DUP here. Edited November 21, 2018 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 Gibraltar voted 98% I think for remaining in the EU. They'd love a deal where they can stay in the single market and part of the UK, even if rUK isn't. If the Spanish don't get too Nationalist about it all it should be easy to sort with a bit of wording change. The Spanish don't want their claim to sovereignty over Gibraltar to be written out of history by it's fate being settled in a new treaty between EU/UK. We're not talking heads gone DUP here. If Gibraltarians end up paying tariffs on goods coming in from Spain it will be the first time many of them have paid taxes on anything 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 May urged by ‘colleagues’ to go back to Europe to get a ‘better’ deal only to find other countries want more ‘concessions’. It’s really not going very well for her. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullerene Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 12 hours ago, O'Kelly Isley III said: The more I see of Corbyn the more I marvel at how such an uninspiring, vacillating, Pooterish individual came to be leader of The Labour Party. If, and it's a huge if, he ever became PM it would be the most ill-fitting appointment since Franck Sauzee's car crash at Hibs. He was against the Iraq War. He is not very keen on Trident. He likes the NHS He cares about doctors, teachers and nurses. Basically a platform of "I am in favour of good things and opposed to bad things." A lot of people agreed with him and hence he became leader. Plus he is a nice person! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 5 minutes ago, Fullerene said: He was against the Iraq War. He is not very keen on Trident. He likes the NHS He cares about doctors, teachers and nurses. Basically a platform of "I am in favour of good things and opposed to bad things." A lot of people agreed with him and hence he became leader. Plus he is a nice person! If it weren’t for that last line I could be leader of the Labour Party. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BawWatchin Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 2 hours ago, Fullerene said: He was against the Iraq War. He is not very keen on Trident. He likes the NHS He cares about doctors, teachers and nurses. Basically a platform of "I am in favour of good things and opposed to bad things." A lot of people agreed with him and hence he became leader. Plus he is a nice person! Also, he has a beard and many may confuse him for Santa. He just needs to roll out the Kris Kringle/naughty list patter and he's guaranteed your vote. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 The only requirement of future Labour leaders will be a five syllable name which can be chanted to the tune of Seven Nation Army. And a Snapchat account, obvs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 8 minutes ago, Miguel Sanchez said: The only requirement of future Labour leaders will be a five syllable name which can be chanted to the tune of Seven Nation Army. And a Snapchat account, obvs. They’re not getting Nicola Sturgeon! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTG Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 16 minutes ago, Miguel Sanchez said: The only requirement of future Labour leaders will be a five syllable name which can be chanted to the tune of Seven Nation Army. And a Snapchat account, obvs. I give you Kezia Dugdale 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 17 minutes ago, Miguel Sanchez said: The only requirement of future Labour leaders will be a five syllable name which can be chanted to the tune of Seven Nation Army. And a Snapchat account, obvs. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 The future relationship document seems to be going down like a wet blanket. Here it is for anyone who can be arsed reading it. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/nov/22/brexit-leaked-political-declaration-in-full 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 Ross Thomson already on twitter moaning about the future arrangements in respect of fishing. Looks like big Tessa is in for another rough few days. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTG Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, Kyle said: Ross Thomson already on twitter moaning about the future arrangements in respect of fishing. Looks like big Tessa is in for another rough few days. If we've learned one thing from this debacle it is that she never needs to worry about what her Scottish MPs say given they're all fart and no follow through. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 21 minutes ago, Melanius Mullarkey said: He has a shite beard, an aversion to suits, and history of the colour red. He's as good as gone. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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