Even less of a title race with the return of Rangers

[Romeo]

Post from September 2016, hunting for pictures of the Celtic crowd.

Your team died pal.

Liquidated.

Gone.

Finito.

And you guys just stood and took it.

 

[The_Kincardine]

1 minute ago, Romeo said:

Post from September 2016, hunting for pictures of the Celtic crowd.

Your team died pal.

Then stop posting about a dead team.

[Romeo]

12 minutes ago, The_Kincardine said:

Then stop posting about a dead team.

No.

It's too hysterical to stop.

[The_Kincardine]

1 minute ago, Romeo said:

It's to hysterical to stop.

Oh the mentally impoverished plastics....

[CityDave]

On 07/03/2017 at 00:05, wastecoatwilly said:

ST mirren are the best team Celtic has faced this season 
I hope this comment from Rodgers insults the rest of the teams below Celtic
Most teams that come to Celtic park this season are psychological beaten before they take to the field
John Collins said something very similar
Managers and coaches and fans hide behind budgets and excuses for poor results.

Not that Celtic are currently unstoppable this season, massive improvement in performances and results with almost the same squad of players that were inconsistent under Deila. Rodgers has raised the bar quite a bit from last season. Nothing to do with the standard of the other teams.

[wastecoatwilly]

3 hours ago, CityDave said:

Not that Celtic are currently unstoppable this season, massive improvement in performances and results with almost the same squad of players that were inconsistent under Deila. Rodgers has raised the bar quite a bit from last season. Nothing to do with the standard of the other teams.

 

[wastecoatwilly]

3 hours ago, CityDave said:

Not that Celtic are currently unstoppable this season, massive improvement in performances and results with almost the same squad of players that were inconsistent under Deila. Rodgers has raised the bar quite a bit from last season. Nothing to do with the standard of the other teams.

I agree that Rodgers has raised the bar but deila built this team and would have won this league this season,losing 4 games out of 38 is not inconsistency
this record breaking season will never be matched
going through a full season undefeated has never been done before
Neil Lennon won the league with only 79 points the lowest total
martin o'neil won the league with the highest total of 103 points, 
the standard of other teams this season are very poor
 

[NoahDarkKnight]

Watching Celtic is a dead cert this season, it doesn't make for an exciting league though...

[CityDave]

4 hours ago, wastecoatwilly said:

I agree that Rodgers has raised the bar but deila built this team and would have won this league this season,losing 4 games out of 38 is not inconsistency
this record breaking season will never be matched
going through a full season undefeated has never been done before
Neil Lennon won the league with only 79 points the lowest total
martin o'neil won the league with the highest total of 103 points, 
the standard of other teams this season are very poor
 

We'll disagree on that one over the other teams, but as long as I've been watching football 40 years when ever a club outside Celtic or Rangers wins the title or puts in a serious challenge its when one or both Celtic and or Rangers are in a weaker/transitional state. Both Aberdeen (3 titles) and Dundee Utd (1) titles came while both Celtic and Rangers were struggling to replace a good number of stalwarts and legends from the 1970's with equal or better standard and fell behind in signing quality as the competition for that standard of player from English teams started to bite.

[wastecoatwilly]

18 hours ago, CityDave said:

We'll disagree on that one over the other teams, but as long as I've been watching football 40 years when ever a club outside Celtic or Rangers wins the title or puts in a serious challenge its when one or both Celtic and or Rangers are in a weaker/transitional state. Both Aberdeen (3 titles) and Dundee Utd (1) titles came while both Celtic and Rangers were struggling to replace a good number of stalwarts and legends from the 1970's with equal or better standard and fell behind in signing quality as the competition for that standard of player from English teams started to bite.

Over the 40 years of watching football you must have an understanding of the game
for me the single biggest problem Scottish football has is losing your talent to England
the only way scottish football can get better is finding a way to keep your talent in Scotland (eg. Ryan Christie) 
the decline of other teams in Scotland can be seen from the results in Europe
every club has the same problems in dealing with the pros and cons of trying to build a successful team

 

[CityDave]

13 minutes ago, wastecoatwilly said:

Over the 40 years of watching football you must have an understanding of the game
for me the single biggest problem Scottish football has is losing your talent to England
the only way scottish football can get better is finding a way to keep your talent in Scotland (eg. Ryan Christie) 
the decline of other teams in Scotland can be seen from the results in Europe
every club has the same problems in dealing with the pros and cons of trying to build a successful team

 

We've been having poor results in Europe for decades, we've been getting very good results in Europe which tend to be overlooked. The change in the format for European competition has not worked well for countries like Scotland, we are not alone in that, it tends to favour the bigger football nations. There's a lot more reasons than that such as the earlier rounds coming too early for Scottish teams as many are barely through pre season. Surely you wouldn't put Celtic's defeat to the Red Imps in the first game as a true reflection of the decline in Scottish football?

Other teams you said, so Celtic are a special case when it comes to crap results in the early rounds?

[Monkey Tennis]

11 hours ago, wastecoatwilly said:

Over the 40 years of watching football you must have an understanding of the game
for me the single biggest problem Scottish football has is losing your talent to England
the only way scottish football can get better is finding a way to keep your talent in Scotland (eg. Ryan Christie) 
the decline of other teams in Scotland can be seen from the results in Europe
every club has the same problems in dealing with the pros and cons of trying to build a successful team

 

Utter bollocks, on an epic scale.

Since the 1890s Scottish teams have lost players to England.  

We had far more players playing in England in the 60s, 70s and 80s, when Scottish clubs did well in Europe and/or the national side qualified for tournaments, than is now the case.

[wastecoatwilly]

23 hours ago, CityDave said:

We've been having poor results in Europe for decades, we've been getting very good results in Europe which tend to be overlooked. The change in the format for European competition has not worked well for countries like Scotland, we are not alone in that, it tends to favour the bigger football nations. There's a lot more reasons than that such as the earlier rounds coming too early for Scottish teams as many are barely through pre season. Surely you wouldn't put Celtic's defeat to the Red Imps in the first game as a true reflection of the decline in Scottish football?

Other teams you said, so Celtic are a special case when it comes to crap results in the early rounds?

Celtic went through to the next round also Celtic have accumulated more than half the points to the co-efficient in the last 5 years so yes Celtic are a special case
if your thinking is summer football to get your teams into the group stages for me this would only work in the short term not in favor of it
the bigger football nations will always be at the top of European competitions 
Scottish football is an above average nation in terms of europe
we should be between 12th and 18th as a nation not sitting at 24th

 

[wastecoatwilly]

2 hours ago, Monkey Tennis said:

Utter bollocks, on an epic scale.

Since the 1890s Scottish teams have lost players to England.  

We had far more players playing in England in the 60s, 70s and 80s, when Scottish clubs did well in Europe and/or the national side qualified for tournaments, than is now the case.

Comparing the 60s,70s and 80s to the modern game is utter bollocks on an epic scale
The Bosman ruling changed that with player power
There is no loyalty from players and clubs are held to ransom
 Your national team does not have any reflection of your game in Scotland or promote your game in Scotland with the lack of Scottish based players

[Monkey Tennis]

3 hours ago, wastecoatwilly said:

Comparing the 60s,70s and 80s to the modern game is utter bollocks on an epic scale
The Bosman ruling changed that with player power
There is no loyalty from players and clubs are held to ransom
 Your national team does not have any reflection of your game in Scotland or promote your game in Scotland with the lack of Scottish based players

And yet your post explicitly referred to an observable decline over the last forty years.

The rest of your post is difficult to decipher, or contains mentions of the bleedin' obvious like Bosman.You don't have a clue what you're attempting to say.

[wastecoatwilly]

7 hours ago, Monkey Tennis said:

And yet your post explicitly referred to an observable decline over the last forty years.

The rest of your post is difficult to decipher, or contains mentions of the bleedin' obvious like Bosman.You don't have a clue what you're attempting to say.

It was city Dave that said he has been watching Scottish football for 40 years and asking for his understanding of the game and how it can improve.
you have just jumped in, ear-wigging if you like and offered nothing because of your lack of understanding 
again you are part of the problem and never offer any solution

[MEADOWXI]

The problem isn't losing talent to England.

If they go to England and play they can get better.

If they go to another club in Scotland they can get better.

If they get bought up to bench warm and play reserve football and earn bigger money not playing football than playing football that is the problem.

I cite the actions of the Bigot Brothers of buying players to weaken other squads and not use what they buying in an effort to aid themselves and in the process f**k Scottish football

[Monkey Tennis]

1 hour ago, wastecoatwilly said:

It was city Dave that said he has been watching Scottish football for 40 years and asking for his understanding of the game and how it can improve.
you have just jumped in, ear-wigging if you like and offered nothing because of your lack of understanding 
again you are part of the problem and never offer any solution

My lack of understanding owes everything to the fact that what you're saying is incomprehensible.

Our problems have virtually nothing to do with players going to England.  None of the evidence supports your claim.

'Part of the problem'!   What laughable rubbish you constantly spout.  

[bennett]

2 hours ago, wastecoatwilly said:

It was city Dave that said he has been watching Scottish football for 40 years and asking for his understanding of the game and how it can improve.
you have just jumped in, ear-wigging if you like and offered nothing because of your lack of understanding 
again you are part of the problem and never offer any solution

You do know that Monkey will keep this going until you lose the will to live, best just to get him telt and then leave it.

 

[wastecoatwilly]

14 minutes ago, Monkey Tennis said:

My lack of understanding owes everything to the fact that what you're saying is incomprehensible.

Our problems have virtually nothing to do with players going to England.  None of the evidence supports your claim.

'Part of the problem'!   What laughable rubbish you constantly spout.  

Again nothing to add,virtually nothing maybe just a wee bit
evidence did you leave something behind