Loondave1 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 I see your man Wings is now choosing the ‘Liverpool fans murdered 96 people at Hillsborough’ hill to die on. Strange man. Can we look forward to his followers regurgitating this like they do everything else? Ah but some things he says are factually correct occasionally so he gets a free pass. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Wings's thoughts on Hillsborough were fairly uncontroversial for quite a long time on here. It's less of an outlier than Jimmy85's at least. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 7 minutes ago, NotThePars said: Wings's thoughts on Hillsborough were fairly uncontroversial for quite a long time on here. It's less of an outlier than Jimmy85's at least. I think it's the deliberately antagonistic passive/aggressive way he expresses absolutely everything that means when he says things like this, people are likely to react negatively. In this case, he's not saying very much others haven't said elsewhere, only in less shouty, less publicised chambers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 Wee Kez is quitting 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tibbermoresaint Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 25 minutes ago, doulikefish said: Wee Kez is quitting Will anyone notice? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuro Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 About time. She's simply far too stupid for politics. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 source? https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/apr/28/kezia-dugdale-set-to-leave-politics-over-labour-brexit-stance 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/apr/28/kezia-dugdale-set-to-leave-politics-over-labour-brexit-stance Seems fairly reasonable to me. But I do have an issue with the journalist and sub editor who allowed this to pass: Quote Dugdale, a member of Labour’s centrist wing 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 Someone pointed out that if she does leave then the possible replacements on the list will be interesting. Sarah Boyack has a senior public affairs job, former Edinburgh Lord Provost Lesley Hinds didn't stand in 2017 which leaves Jalal Choudry but if he doesn't want it then it falls to Cat Headley who's left the party. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btb Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 Kez quitting - she'd not have been on the Labour List at the next Holyrood elections so it's more a matter of getting off a stop early. Quote She has toyed with defecting from Labour to join the Independent Group, now known as Change UK, and is thought privately to be less hostile to Scottish independence than she was as Scottish leader. Real chance for Kez to slip the knife into ScotLab which would go down well domestically! ********************* On a more serious note I've always felt that Labour voters of Kez's generation & younger are softer in their opposition to Independence than Tories and older Labour voters. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MONKMAN Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 Kez to come out in support of independence, NAP of the day. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 40 minutes ago, btb said: Kez quitting - she'd not have been on the Labour List at the next Holyrood elections so it's more a matter of getting off a stop early. Real chance for Kez to slip the knife into ScotLab which would go down well domestically! ********************* On a more serious note I've always felt that Labour voters of Kez's generation & younger are softer in their opposition to Independence than Tories and older Labour voters. Labour and the Tories do seem to have a cult-like obsession with UK nationalism. Both parties happily tolerate differing views on EU membership, but they cannot allow their members to even voice any opposition to Scotland’s incorporation within the UK. Questioning London rule is just sacrilege and not to be tolerated. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 1 hour ago, MONKMAN said: Kez to come out in support of independence, NAP of the day. Wings to make an ill-advised comment on Kez coming out and have another week in court. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 2 hours ago, MONKMAN said: Kez to come out in support of independence, NAP of the day. She could have, and should have, joined the SNP after the brexit refendum. Unfortunately Nicola completely messed up any possibility of that happening. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 I dont think she’ll join the snp but I do think she will publicly say that indy isnt the huge evil that some of the ukok crew say it is. I dont particularly want her to join the snp either as it would just be a careerist move. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 That said Stuart Campbell is a fucking fanny of the highest order. His comments re Hillsbourgh and trans folks are disgraceful, he is the online version of Clerkin. Aye he wrote a wee pamphlet but he can f**k off if he thinks insulting every opponent is the best way to win a political argument. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 3 hours ago, NotThePars said: Someone pointed out that if she does leave then the possible replacements on the list will be interesting. Sarah Boyack has a senior public affairs job, former Edinburgh Lord Provost Lesley Hinds didn't stand in 2017 which leaves Jalal Choudry but if he doesn't want it then it falls to Cat Headley who's left the party. According to the Beeb: Quote She would be automatically replaced as an MSP by the the next person on Labour's regional list for the Lothians - which is former MSP Sarah Boyack, a former contender for the Scottish Labour leadership. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-48084634 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuro Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 3 hours ago, NotThePars said: Someone pointed out that if she does leave then the possible replacements on the list will be interesting. Sarah Boyack has a senior public affairs job, former Edinburgh Lord Provost Lesley Hinds didn't stand in 2017 which leaves Jalal Choudry but if he doesn't want it then it falls to Cat Headley who's left the party. That's not even slightly interesting. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuro Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 1 hour ago, ICTJohnboy said: She could have, and should have, joined the SNP after the brexit refendum. Unfortunately Nicola completely messed up any possibility of that happening. Nothing unfortunate about it she's a vacuous airhead. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuro Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 45 minutes ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said: That said Stuart Campbell is a fucking fanny of the highest order. His comments re Hillsbourgh and trans folks are disgraceful, he is the online version of Clerkin. Aye he wrote a wee pamphlet but he can f**k off if he thinks insulting every opponent is the best way to win a political argument. What were his comments about trans people? Can you give us some quotes? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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