Peppino Impastato Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 Also funnily enough i have a feeling Darren fletcher could do a good job there in certain games but no point now, this campaign isover and hhe'll be gone by next one, better to get younger players in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Malcolm Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 1 hour ago, Gordopolis said: Me neither. He'll almost certainly get a cap at some point. Hopefully not just a Darren Barr style cap but the first of many. There's no guarantees he'll make vast improvements on where he is at the moment but a lot of the raw materials are there and he's at a decent place for this stage in his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Malcolm Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 48 minutes ago, Peppino Impastato said: Should also add Jordan mcghee and Harry souttar. Mcghee and the two souttars will be our 3 first choices cbs. Also really need to be on the phone to caulker twice a week till he says yes. It makes you realise how bad our centre backs are right now that so many of us are pushing Caulker, who is talented but no world beater and a bit of a long shot too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfadden78 Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 Updated centre backs list Just added everyone's players to a list. Feel free to use this list, added Boyle Davey etc from Craig and the rest from others have postedEnglish Premiership Middlesborough (U23’s?) Jordan McGhee Stoke (U23’s?) Harry Souttar West Bromwich Darren Fletcher (if he can play there and wants to?)SPFL Aberdeen Mark Reynolds, Andy Considine Rangers Danny Wilson Hearts John Souttar St Johnstone Steven Anderson Inverness CT Brad McKay Kilmarnock Scott Boyd Will Boyle Partick Thistle Liam Lindsay Hamilton Accies Michael Devlin Motherwell Stephen McManus, Ross County Paul Quinn, Jay McEveleyChampionship Dundee Utd Mark Durnan Falkirk Peter Grant Hibernian Paul Hanlon Darren McGregorEnglish Championship Blackburn Gordon Greer, Charlie Mulgrew Burton Kyle McFadzean Ipswich Christophe Berra Leeds Liam Cooper Newcastle Grant Hanley Stuart Findlay (U23 side?) Norwich Russell Martin QPR Steven Caulker (if he wants to play?) Rotherham Kirk Broadfoot (injured) Reading Zak Jules Dom HyamLeague 1 MK Dons Jack Hendry Northampton Zander Diamond Oldham Cameron Burgess Scunthorpe United Murray WallaceLeague 2 Blackpool Clark Robertson Crawley Alex Davey (on loan from Chelsea) Luton Scott Cuthbert Mansfield Alex Iacovitti (on loan from Forest) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordopolis Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 John Souttar injury today vs Celtic - snapped achilles apparently. We have absolutely nae f'ing luck. I know he's hardly our current first choice CB, but he is/was a prospect. This kind of injury means a long time out and can easily change or ruin a player's career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenny131 Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 On 17/11/2016 at 19:18, mcfadden78 said: Updated centre backs list Just added everyone's players to a list. Feel free to use this list, added Boyle Davey etc from Craig and the rest from others have postedEnglish Premiership Middlesborough (U23’s?) Jordan McGhee Stoke (U23’s?) Harry Souttar West Bromwich Darren Fletcher (if he can play there and wants to?)SPFL Aberdeen Mark Reynolds, Andy Considine Rangers Danny Wilson Hearts John Souttar St Johnstone Steven Anderson Inverness CT Brad McKay Kilmarnock Scott Boyd Will Boyle Partick Thistle Liam Lindsay Hamilton Accies Michael Devlin Motherwell Stephen McManus, Ross County Paul Quinn, Jay McEveleyChampionship Dundee Utd Mark Durnan Falkirk Peter Grant Hibernian Paul Hanlon Darren McGregorEnglish Championship Blackburn Gordon Greer, Charlie Mulgrew Burton Kyle McFadzean Ipswich Christophe Berra Leeds Liam Cooper Newcastle Grant Hanley Stuart Findlay (U23 side?) Norwich Russell Martin QPR Steven Caulker (if he wants to play?) Rotherham Kirk Broadfoot (injured) Reading Zak Jules Dom HyamLeague 1 MK Dons Jack Hendry Northampton Zander Diamond Oldham Cameron Burgess Scunthorpe United Murray WallaceLeague 2 Blackpool Clark Robertson Crawley Alex Davey (on loan from Chelsea) Luton Scott Cuthbert Mansfield Alex Iacovitti (on loan from Forest) That's it seriously......We're fucked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkoRaj Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 Updated centre backs list Just added everyone's players to a list. Feel free to use this list, added Boyle Davey etc from Craig and the rest from others have postedEnglish Premiership Middlesborough (U23’s?) Jordan McGhee Stoke (U23’s?) Harry Souttar West Bromwich Darren Fletcher (if he can play there and wants to?) That is about the most tragic clutching of straws I've ever seenWe are fucked aye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 John Souttar injury today vs Celtic - snapped achilles apparently. We have absolutely nae f'ing luck. I know he's hardly our current first choice CB, but he is/was a prospect. This kind of injury means a long time out and can easily change or ruin a player's career. Having watched him twice in the last few days against us if that is who we are relying on coming through for Scotland at CB we're in bigger trouble than I thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grass Is Greener. Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 He's the most overrated player in Scotland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 There's no guarantees he'll make vast improvements on where he is at the moment but a lot of the raw materials are there and he's at a decent place for this stage in his career. Comments like this annoy me, he's not far off 21 and has over 100 senior games at club level, yet he still regularly loses men at set pieces, gets caught up the park and over plays with the ball whilst the last man. Folk still speak like he's a 17yo rookie. For reference he's almost a year and a half older, with over double the amount of games, than Oliver Burke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Malcolm Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 1 hour ago, RandomGuy. said: Comments like this annoy me, he's not far off 21 and has over 100 senior games at club level, yet he still regularly loses men at set pieces, gets caught up the park and over plays with the ball whilst the last man. Folk still speak like he's a 17yo rookie. For reference he's almost a year and a half older, with over double the amount of games, than Oliver Burke. None of what I said there is wrong. Players progress at different speeds. Souttar is still a young player and Burke is a long way from the finished article too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkoRaj Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Centre halves generally don't develop fully until they are much older than forwards thoughBurke probably makes the same amount of mistakes at the same age but they aren't as noticeable because of his position plus he can make up for it in other ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 None of what I said there is wrong. Players progress at different speeds. Souttar is still a young player and Burke is a long way from the finished article too. Centre halves generally don't develop fully until they are much older than forwards thoughBurke probably makes the same amount of mistakes at the same age but they aren't as noticeable because of his position plus he can make up for it in other ways. Absolute pish. He's got five seasons of top flight football, and over 100 games, and is still making basic errors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkoRaj Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 The ability to avoid making basic errors has eluded every single defender we've ever produced so I think your criteria might be slightly flawed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Comments like this annoy me, he's not far off 21 and has over 100 senior games at club level, yet he still regularly loses men at set pieces, gets caught up the park and over plays with the ball whilst the last man. Folk still speak like he's a 17yo rookie. For reference he's almost a year and a half older, with over double the amount of games, than Oliver Burke. You've just described John Stones, and he went for 40 mill and still making the same mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearbuyerbell Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Berra and Russell Martin are probably our best two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8MileBU Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Berra and Russell Martin are probably our best two. A sorry state of affairs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordopolis Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Berra and Russell Martin are probably our best two. Berra's no better than Hanley. There's a reason he went from being our first choice CB to absolutely nowhere for the last 5 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearbuyerbell Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 18 minutes ago, Gordopolis said: Berra's no better than Hanley. There's a reason he went from being our first choice CB to absolutely nowhere for the last 5 years. I don't think Hanley is in our top 5 CB's. I'd have Berra, Martin, Mulgrew and Greer ahead of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woof! Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 23 hours ago, Pearbuyerbell said: I don't think Hanley is in our top 5 CB's. I'd have Berra, Martin, Mulgrew and Greer ahead of him. so he is in your top 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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