Bambino7 Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 10 minutes ago, TheGoon said: Also, Hibs fans would try make a case for Lionel Messi not getting in their team if they were so asked to. No we wouldn't. Like Kris Commons he would fit right in. Gary fucking Oliver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bambino7 Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 1 minute ago, SuperTon said: Gary Oliver is an excellent player at this level. He probably wouldn't get in the Hibs team but I certainly wouldn't have any other player in the league ahead of him in the position he plays. He's a much better player than the one that was at Queens or Hearts. So he's basically this seasons John Baird? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grass Is Greener. Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 This is just getting silly now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bambino7 Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 2 minutes ago, The Grass Is Greener. said: This is just getting silly now It's becoming apparent some are being serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperTon Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 Literally just said he wouldn't get in your team and you're all still raging about the suggestion Wooooosssshhhhhh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grass Is Greener. Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 1 minute ago, SuperTon said: Literally just said he wouldn't get in your team and you're all still raging about the suggestion Wooooosssshhhhhh I didn't quote you, champ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraser Fyvie Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 Also, Hibs fans would try make a case for Lionel Messi not getting in their team if they were so asked to. Messi plays the Hibs Way, of course he'd get in our team. Not sure Ronaldo would be so suited to our style though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grass Is Greener. Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 The Lochend Brazil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bambino7 Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 3 minutes ago, SuperTon said: Literally just said he wouldn't get in your team and you're all still raging about the suggestion Wooooosssshhhhhh You're the only sane one although you did just make an ass of you and me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyline Drifter Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 18 minutes ago, SuperTon said: Gary Oliver is an excellent player at this level. He probably wouldn't get in the Hibs team but I certainly wouldn't have any other player in the league ahead of him in the position he plays. He's a much better player than the one that was at Queens or Hearts. The idea that Gary Oliver is better than Dobbie is hysterical to be honest no matter how much he's improved in 6 months. 30 minutes ago, TheGoon said: This thread is going pretty much as I'd imagined. Every supporter of every club has an inflated idea of how good or bad their players are. This could of course come from watching them every week, but could also be supporters blindly backing their club on almost any issue. Personally, Cummings is the only Hibs player I'd have in our starting XI at the minute. I recognise that the likes of Fyvie, McGinn & McGregor are all leading players for this level, but at this moment in time could not be performing better than the likes of Lindsay, Murdoch or O'Ware. Similarly, I don't blame Hibs fans for not wanting Morton players in their starting XI at the minute. Perhaps if they were struggling and Morton were however many points clear it'd be different, but I can understand why they wouldn't swap the players right now regardless of their form. That being said, Gary Oliver is the best second striker in the league and shouldn't really be judged on his QOTS or Hearts days. He has came on leaps and bounds in a short space of time. Much like Gunning, Murdoch or even Quitongo shouldn't be judged on their previous stints with gubbins teams. Altogether far too sensible for this thread but John McGinn is a full international. Again, the idea he's not performing better than Jamie Lindsay and Andy Murdoch is bizarre. Whilst allowing for Gordon Strachan playing a wee bit of personal favourites, I am yet to see any serious suggestion of Lindsay or Murdoch being called up to the Scotland squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoon Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 17 minutes ago, Skyline Drifter said: The idea that Gary Oliver is better than Dobbie is hysterical to be honest no matter how much he's improved in 6 months. Altogether far too sensible for this thread but John McGinn is a full international. Again, the idea he's not performing better than Jamie Lindsay and Andy Murdoch is bizarre. Whilst allowing for Gordon Strachan playing a wee bit of personal favourites, I am yet to see any serious suggestion of Lindsay or Murdoch being called up to the Scotland squad. Is it? I don't see how McGinn has been that much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunning1874 Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 Oliver needs to prove he can maintain it consistently, but if he continues to play as he has for the last three months or so until the end of the season he'll have earned the right to be considered one of the best players in the division. On the other hand, we could list literally hundreds of players who've had a few good months then never managed to reproduce that form again even when staying at this level, never mind progressing to a higher one. As Oliver's still only 21 I'm hopeful he's more likely to continue improving than have a John Baird style career trajectory, but as much as I'm enjoying watching him play for us just now we shouldn't get carried away. It's an exciting and welcome change to have so many promising youngsters at the club at once so the optimism about their futures is understandable, but if they were all better than Hibs players already than we wouldn't be 11 points behind them. We have already rejected one offer for Oliver, albeit that was mainly due to Lee Clark being a panicking mess who was attempting the tried and tested 'sign anyone who has a great game against you' method having unsurprisingly failed miserably with the English Leagues 1 & 2 loanees method. Still, it'd be no surprise to see more interest in the summer if he maintains this form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 36 minutes ago, Skyline Drifter said: The idea that Gary Oliver is better than Dobbie is hysterical to be honest no matter how much he's improved in 6 months. I was by no means Oliver's biggest fan at the start of the season, but he now plays an integral part in a much, much better team by linking play with the centre forward and creating acres of space for our midfielders to rampage into from deep areas. He's not the same type of attacking player as Dobbie, so it's a nonsensical comparison. Which is just as well for you really - given that Oliver was instrumental in demolishing your rabble 5-0 on your own midden; while, as the aggregate score of 6-0 suggests, puffing mess Dobbie has spent all 180 minutes in the back pocket of Thomas O'Ware, merely the third best centre-back to have played for The Famous in this campaign. Just let that sink in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bambino7 Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 f**k sake referring to themselves as "the famous" also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gmfc 23 Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 2 hours ago, Senor Bairn said: Wouldn't be hard. We're fucking shite. Still wouldn't get on the hibs bench and certainly not in a bottom 8 side you rambling mess Correct falkirk are shite most of that is down to the manager fucking up the team selections though. A rambling mess = the falkirk support last saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dudu Dahan pal Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 our reserves would make up the best of the rest team gary Oliver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senor Bairn Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 Correct falkirk are shite most of that is down to the manager fucking up the team selections though. A rambling mess = the falkirk support last saturday. Aye man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeHFC Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 If I thought a player from any other team was better than what we have I'd have no problems saying it. If we reverted to playing a game where we rely on our full backs for attacking width I'd have Russell from Morton over Stevenson no problem (although he has been better recently). I wouldn't mind some Morton players over our squad players either, O'Ware over Fontaine for instance, but even at that if I had the choice of CH's in this division to replace him with I'd pick Grant from Falkirk! However, if both of our squads were fully fit there is not one Morton player I would have in the Hibs starting 11. The suggestion that Gary Oliver would get anywhere near starting 11 is laughable though, Cummings, Keatings and Boyle would all get a start over him! In the period Boyle was playing every week for us he started 7 games (6 as a striker) and scored 5 goals, which is the same as Oliver, and he's the most frustrating striker of the three of them!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zing. Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 We currently sit 11 points clear of Morton. I'm sure that's enough to show that our players are currently vastly superior to what they have to offer. I'm sure wee Gary will break the 10 goal mark soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
port-ton Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 We have Ross Forbes while you are begging your fat, less talented and ancient version of Ross Forbes to continue his loan until the end of the season as you're so scared of our title charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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