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Polling: 2017 General Election, Council Elections and Independence


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5 hours ago, sparky88 said:

This. Labours vote going up in Scotland can only help the SNP.

Hugo Rifkind seems to think so. Will split the Yoon vote.

I like Corbyn tbh but the SNP are arguably more radical, if that's what you're after.

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8 minutes ago, virginton said:

If the Tories pick up a small swing in the Brexit shitholes while losing ground in the marginals due to Remain votes in the richer areas then they could well be fucked.

I'm hoping for 300 seats, everything up in the air.

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From polling, the winners were the one Yougov seat share poll and the big winner the exit poll, in spite of for the second election in a row, everyone trying to diss it for an hour or two. (Where is Kellner now) The big losers, all the methodologies that discounted a surge in youth votes. 

The one useful lesson is the same lesson that gets repeated every time about polling. It can be off in guessing who will vote, but it can show useful changes in opinion. They all picked up the big swing towards labour just misjudged who would turn up. Last time all the vocus was on "shy tories" (as in 92). Now its going to be "first time voters for Labour".

 

And those queues at universities turned out to be early warnings that a new demographic had arrived and were really really p*ssed off at having been one of the brunts of austerity for their entire adult lives. 

A lot of "reap as ye have sown" this morning. If you take people for granted then things like the working class for Brexit, the 2015 Labour Scotland wipeout and the 2017 youth revolt against austerity can p*ss in your well deserved chips. 

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I went to bed after watching the YouGov guy (Kellner?) constantly having a pop at the exit poll, over and over. How's he feeling right now?

That's a magnificent bit of work by Curtice to be so close, when you see seats being won by the likes of two votes.

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2 hours ago, ICTChris said:

Here's an article on how YouGov's election model, which predicted the result pretty accurately, worked

https://yougov.co.uk/news/2017/05/31/how-yougov-model-2017-general-election-works/

 

 

Only Survation were pretty accurate with their prediction, Yougov were just throwing enough shite on the wall in the hope that some of it stuck.

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  • 2 weeks later...

Rumours before the council elections about bin collections going to every 3 weeks instead of fortnightly.
Not happening said the Labour councillors.

Then they sneak in with a stitch up with the Tories and low and behold- http://www.motherwelltimes.co.uk/news/politics/north-lanarkshire-council-has-approved-changes-to-bin-collections-1-4482525

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  • 4 weeks later...

Latest Scotland subpoll numbers for a repeat Westminster election over the last week or so:

ICM Lab 30 SNP 27 Con 17 LD 4 DK/refuse 16

Survation SNP 32.5 Lab 25.3 Con 22.0 LD 12.5

Opinium SNP 35 Con 31 Lab 29 LD 1

YouGov SNP 36 Lab 31 Con 25 LD 5

Combined you get a pretty decent sample size. Looks like the SNP would probably lose a few more to Labour but might gain a few back from the Tories. Not long to wait now until the negative impacts of Brexit become much more obvious to people and it will be interesting to see what unfolds after that.

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2 hours ago, LongTimeLurker said:

Latest Scotland subpoll numbers for a repeat Westminster election over the last week or so:

ICM Lab 30 SNP 27 Con 17 LD 4 DK/refuse 16

Survation SNP 32.5 Lab 25.3 Con 22.0 LD 12.5

Opinium SNP 35 Con 31 Lab 29 LD 1

YouGov SNP 36 Lab 31 Con 25 LD 5

Combined you get a pretty decent sample size. Looks like the SNP would probably lose a few more to Labour but might gain a few back from the Tories. Not long to wait now until the negative impacts of Brexit become much more obvious to people and it will be interesting to see what unfolds after that.

It's mental because I'm willing to guess that a large chunk of that Labour vote is pro EU and they still think that Labour are pro soft Brexit.

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