lionel hutz Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 1 hour ago, UnitedLoon63 said: Is it No a bit early to be on the drink 46 minutes ago, FifeArab said: Said nobody, ever. Let me explain myself. Mikkelsen was our form player in the last run of games last season, so we can try and keep him or we can try and get Ciftci who hasn't had any serious run of games since he left us - will probably be overweight, has a tendency to get himself sent-off or go in a huff as soon as something doesn't work for him. It's not that I don't like Nadir, it's just that we have a terrible record of players returning to Tannadice and it would be a massive and expensive risk compared to Mikkelsen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roman_bairn Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 bang average hibs team that walked the league last season and won the Scottish cup the year before putting many top flight sides in their place. Bang average is a reasonable assessment. However the usual Hibee arrogance will never let them believe that.I am betting that Lennon will be out of a job by New Year when realisation sinks in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedLoon63 Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 I'd completely forgotten about Fraser. Hopefully he mans up a bit now that all his loser friends have gone. I'd rather we went 4-4-2 and just didn't play him though. He'll play right midfield in a 4-4-2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedLoon63 Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 Let me explain myself. Mikkelsen was our form player in the last run of games last season, so we can try and keep him or we can try and get Ciftci who hasn't had any serious run of games since he left us - will probably be overweight, has a tendency to get himself sent-off or go in a huff as soon as something doesn't work for him.It's not that I don't like Nadir, it's just that we have a terrible record of players returning to Tannadice and it would be a massive and expensive risk compared to Mikkelsen. If we want to get Mikkelson we have to pay a fee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roman_bairn Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 I seem to have wandered into the combined Falkirk v Hibs/Falkirk v Morton thread. If anyone can point me in the direction of where I can get the latest United admin news, I'd be very grateful. Apologies [emoji3] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dregs 83 Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 More chance of Costa signing than Ciftci. I see Dylan Bikey has been released by Hearts- could be good as a pacey option alongside Keatings- or impact player off the bench Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pull My Strings Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 1 hour ago, UnitedLoon63 said: If we want to get Mikkelson we have to pay a fee Maybe. His club don't want him so it depends how much interest there is from elsewhere. If nobody offers a fee then they'll eventually take a view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pull My Strings Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 1 hour ago, skinny arab said: Expect us to go 4-4-2 this season as McKinnon and Taylor have both said they are looking at 2 or 3 strong striker options to complement Keatings (who wouldn't be suitable as a lone striker imo). Solid defence, 2 wingers and a poacher (Keatings) playing off a target man. Ciftci ain't happening. I believe they're looking for another 2 strikers, which would give us 3 in total. You'd need more than 3 if you're primarily going to play 442. I think we'll go 4231 but with enough in the squad to change to 442 when required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zetterlund Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 A Nads homecoming is unlikely, but it would be one of those signings that gave the season ticket sales a boost. Go on Thommo, you know it makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishtergrolsch Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 I can't handle another season of 4231. Too much shite has happened with that formation. 442. Wingers. Big target man. Crosses. Goals. Please. Not tippy tappy to-me-to-you to the disheartened, poor b*****d that gets the shift from hell on his own with no support. Also, Nadir would literally eat the entire league alive. Bring him home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grass Is Greener. Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 1 hour ago, roman_bairn said: Bang average is a reasonable assessment. However the usual Hibee arrogance will never let them believe that. I am betting that Lennon will be out of a job by New Year when realisation sinks in. How many seasons have Falkirk been stuck in the Championship? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pull My Strings Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 6 minutes ago, mishtergrolsch said: I can't handle another season of 4231. Too much shite has happened with that formation. 442. Wingers. Big target man. Crosses. Goals. Please. Not tippy tappy to-me-to-you to the disheartened, poor b*****d that gets the shift from hell on his own with no support. ... That's not down to the formation. If you've no width and no pace and the only out-ball is Simon Murray then you're going to struggle to make chances irrespective what formation you play. 4231 didn't do too badly when we had the guys to make it work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishtergrolsch Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 1 minute ago, Pull My Strings said: That's not down to the formation. If you've width and no pace and the only out-ball is Simon Murray then you're going to struggle to make chances irrespective what formation you play. 4231 didn't do too badly when we had the guys to make it work. It did until it went tits up after the purple patch when players like Gauld, Armstrong, GMS, Ciftci and Robertson got tubbed 4-1 v st mirren , I think it was, and we went on to shit fest that season. And the one after. Then we got relegated. The formation of 4231, to me, isolates the forward and exposes the full backs all too often. Especially if the 3 attacking midfielders aren't the best at closing down and tracking back. Settling around 6 or 7 new players into a team, in my opinion, would also be better in a traditional, simple 442. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pull My Strings Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 1 minute ago, mishtergrolsch said: It did until it went tits up after the purple patch when players like Gauld, Armstrong, GMS, Ciftci and Robertson got tubbed 4-1 v st mirren , I think it was, and we went on to shit fest that season. And the one after. Then we got relegated. The formation of 4231, to me, isolates the forward and exposes the full backs all too often. Especially if the 3 attacking midfielders aren't the best at closing down and tracking back. Settling around 6 or 7 new players into a team, in my opinion, would also be better in a traditional, simple 442. You might be extending that period beyond it's natural conclusion. We were within touching distance of the top of the league until GMS and Armstrong were sold. By that time only Ciftci was left of the key players who made that formation work and then he left as well. Safe to say that none were in any way associated with the team which was relegated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadwell Dog Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 Surely need to be a loan deal as I doubt United could afford anything like his Celtic wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roman_bairn Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 How many seasons have Falkirk been stuck in the Championship? Usual Hibs pish!Like a broken f*ckin record.Leaving this thread for Arab chat.See you in the Falkirk forum as usual. [emoji3] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grass Is Greener. Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 7 minutes ago, roman_bairn said: Usual Hibs pish! Like a broken f*ckin record. Leaving this thread for Arab chat. See you in the Falkirk forum as usual. It was a simple question, m9. No need to get all defensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pull My Strings Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 31 minutes ago, Shadwell Dog said: Surely need to be a loan deal as I doubt United could afford anything like his Celtic wages. Och, I doubt anyone seriously thinks he'll be coming back. It's a nice pipedream but that's about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraemePaynesSocks Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 It did until it went tits up after the purple patch when players like Gauld, Armstrong, GMS, Ciftci and Robertson got tubbed 4-1 v st mirren , I think it was, and we went on to shit fest that season. And the one after. Then we got relegated. The formation of 4231, to me, isolates the forward and exposes the full backs all too often. Especially if the 3 attacking midfielders aren't the best at closing down and tracking back. Settling around 6 or 7 new players into a team, in my opinion, would also be better in a traditional, simple 442. 4-4-2 is too easily beaten by teams with a 5 man midfield. Outnumbered in the middle of the park and the attacking midfield can play between the midfield and defence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigmouth Strikes Again Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 8 minutes ago, Pull My Strings said: Och, I doubt anyone seriously thinks he'll be coming back. It's a nice pipedream but that's about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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