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2 hours ago, Hoose Rice said:

Pape Habib Gueye to the cabbage.

Seems to be an out and out centre forward, in which case given the other areas we'd need to strengthen for a midfield 3 type formation suggests to me wee Lee is going 4-4-fucking-2.

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31 minutes ago, GHF-23 said:

Seems to be an out and out centre forward, in which case given the other areas we'd need to strengthen for a midfield 3 type formation suggests to me wee Lee is going 4-4-fucking-2.

 

Defence "hoof" offence.  

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Would give us two decent big man/finisher combos I suppose, Pape and Vente then Doidge and ALF. 

Do we play a holding midfielder in a two man midfield? No clue, but if we do I reckon we should try to get an upgrade on Jeggo to go alongside Newell, albeit given the difficulty of shifting the likes of Henderson and Tavares then that'll be a problem.

Hadn't been thinking about another forward as our next target but if we're trying to build a 442 I can get behind that and the 4 I've listed are great options on current evidence. 

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8 minutes ago, Hoose Rice said:

 

Defence "hoof" offence.  

I mean not necessarily, our strengths are in the wide areas and up front, and we've seen a succession of managers try to play intricate or possession based football and it's been eye bleeding. More direct play can be far more exciting if done properly. The most exciting Hibs teams I can remember were fairly direct all things considered.

2 minutes ago, Chefki Kuqi said:

Would give us two decent big man/finisher combos I suppose, Pape and Vente then Doidge and ALF. 

Do we play a holding midfielder in a two man midfield? No clue, but if we do I reckon we should try to get an upgrade on Jeggo to go alongside Newell, albeit given the difficulty of shifting the likes of Henderson and Tavares then that'll be a problem.

Hadn't been thinking about another forward as our next target but if we're trying to build a 442 I can get behind that and the 4 I've listed are great options on current evidence. 

That's what I was thinking, two similar combos there. Kind of solves the midfield problem a bit - you go Newall plus a baller (Levitt), holder (Jeggo) or runner (Campbell) depending on the game and then have JDH as the lesser version of Newall if needed.

Youan, Obita, Boyle wide with hopefully a new more technical/playmakery type as a different option, although they might think they can get a few good games out of Henderson, Molitnikov and McCallister there - I wouldn't have a problem with the latter two at least getting a chance here and there in one of those roles until January.

Tbh I think at that point we're a left back (I know others will say CH but just don't see them bringing in another) away from a very decent squad. 

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And the winner for most unintentionally hilarious sports headline 2023 goes to...

 

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/major-injury-blow-for-hibs-europa-opponents-as-aston-villa-superstar-to-miss-both-legs-4262315

 

"Major injury blow for Hibs’ Europa opponents as Aston Villa superstar to miss both legs"

 

 

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6 minutes ago, The Other Foot said:

And the winner for most unintentionally hilarious sports headline 2023 goes to...

 

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/major-injury-blow-for-hibs-europa-opponents-as-aston-villa-superstar-to-miss-both-legs-4262315

 

"Major injury blow for Hibs’ Europa opponents as Aston Villa superstar to miss both legs"

 

 

Hilarious. 

As if Villa would need to play any of their regular first XI against Hibs.

🤣

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2 hours ago, GHF-23 said:

I mean not necessarily, our strengths are in the wide areas and up front, and we've seen a succession of managers try to play intricate or possession based football and it's been eye bleeding. More direct play can be far more exciting if done properly. The most exciting Hibs teams I can remember were fairly direct all things considered.

That's what I was thinking, two similar combos there. Kind of solves the midfield problem a bit - you go Newall plus a baller (Levitt), holder (Jeggo) or runner (Campbell) depending on the game and then have JDH as the lesser version of Newall if needed.

Youan, Obita, Boyle wide with hopefully a new more technical/playmakery type as a different option, although they might think they can get a few good games out of Henderson, Molitnikov and McCallister there - I wouldn't have a problem with the latter two at least getting a chance here and there in one of those roles until January.

Tbh I think at that point we're a left back (I know others will say CH but just don't see them bringing in another) away from a very decent squad. 

What teams are they and how do they resemble a Lee Johnson team?   Every exciting Hibernian teams Ive seem have had at least two dynamic footballers in the middle of the park and footballers in there.  From John Oneil and Latapy to John McGinn and Dylan McGeough. 

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1 hour ago, Hoose Rice said:

What teams are they and how do they resemble a Lee Johnson team?   Every exciting Hibernian teams Ive seem have had at least two dynamic footballers in the middle of the park and footballers in there.  From John Oneil and Latapy to John McGinn and Dylan McGeough. 

I'm just pointing out that if you have good forwards and two of the best wingers in the league then getting the ball forward to them quickly does not equal "hoofball", less exciting or less easy on the eye.

As for the point there your "two dynamic footballers in the middle of the park and footballers in there", which I'm struggling to parse out tbh, could easily be Joe Newall and Dylan Levitt. I don't deny our quality of player beyond them is not very good but teams in this league are always going to be balanced in favour of some areas and lighter in quality in others. 

Tony Mowbray's team, Neil Lennon's six months of decent football, Yogi's good team and even Jack Ross when we finished third regularly played with two strikers and were not afraid to get the ball forward early. Of those, Lennon and Mowbray obviously had excellent first choice central midfielders; Mowbray had terrific strength in depth there (although Antonio Murray still managed to rack up a bunch of appearances); but Yogi ran with Kevin McBride, Paddy Cregg and John Rankin fighting it out alongside Liam Miller. Jack Ross got third, a cup semi and a cup final with a midfield of Newall, Gogic and an out of position, unfit Jackson Irvine.

It's a very Hibs fan thing to watch years of short pass possession football bore the arse off you and assume that someone saying get the ball to your excellent wingers and forwards more quickly automatically means hoofball.  

I get you just hate Lee Johnson, I find him pretty insufferable myself and would replace him if for some reason Ben Kensell phoned me up and asked me to decide for him. But we're at the moment talking about something purely hypothetical as we don't know what he plans to do, and commenting on whether or not it could make us an easier on the eye, more exciting and effective football team. 

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