Auld Heid Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Given the previous reluctance of the SJFA to discuss change - was their move to consult clubs engineered from above? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross. Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 1 minute ago, Auld Heid said: Given the previous reluctance of the SJFA to discuss change - was their move to consult clubs engineered from above? I think with the growing speculation around a number of clubs who are considering the move, the lack of any clear progress with regards to sponsorship and the continued mess with the fixtures, TJ has realised he has to at least pretend he offers something resembling leadership to the Junior clubs if he is going to have any chance at continuing to steal a wage. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS7 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Whatever the outcome with the juniors, I think the best option for Bonnyrigg is to move to east of Scotland. In fact, I’d suggest all Lothian teams should consider this. In the west, without an obvious place to go, I’m not sure. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmontheloknow Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, BS7 said: Whatever the outcome with the juniors, I think the best option for Bonnyrigg is to move to east of Scotland. In fact, I’d suggest all Lothian teams should consider this. In the west, without an obvious place to go, I’m not sure. The creation of a West of Scotland League. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Clydebank staying Junior for a year due to redeveloping Holm Park. Intention to go to the EoSFL for 2019/20 unless anything changes between now and then. http://www.clydebankfc.com/club-statement-3/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross. Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 (edited) If anyone is interested, we have now publicly announced the result from Sundays vote. http://www.clydebankfc.com/club-statement-3/ ETA: Sensible decision for me and the one I expected, though I know a few were disappointed that we are deferring for a season and would have preferred us to go all in and apply for next season. Edited March 28, 2018 by Ross. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 5 minutes ago, BS7 said: Whatever the outcome with the juniors, I think the best option for Bonnyrigg is to move to east of Scotland. In fact, I’d suggest all Lothian teams should consider this. In the west, without an obvious place to go, I’m not sure. Will be interesting to see what the decision is on this at the clubs that have put applications in. If the goal is the LL and beyond in the years ahead, the EoS may still provide the easier pathway. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitburn Vale Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 It will soon be getting called the "West of Scotland junior cup not the "Scottish junior cup". The bubble gets ever smaller. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitburn Vale Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 3 minutes ago, Ross. said: If anyone is interested, we have now publicly announced the result from Sundays vote. http://www.clydebankfc.com/club-statement-3/ ETA: Sensible decision for me and the one I expected, though I know a few were disappointed that we are deferring for a season and would have preferred us to go all in and apply for next season. Yeah totally agree Ross,wait a season while holm park is being upgraded and also wait to see whether a west of scotland league will be set up for 2019-20. If not its the E.o.S. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kefc Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 4 minutes ago, superbigal said: He really just won't surrender will he ? If as his statement says the club's now hold the decision (here's me thinking they always did) , someone have the balls to set up a motion of no confidence Kelty why did you never try that route ? Possibly through fear the club could be discriminated against for rattling the cage, we were going for a title last season and didn’t want anything derailing it. Its common knowledge that had TJ got his finger out, started talks and we had an answer or date when Junior clubs would get into the pyramid and be able to be Licenced we would have stayed. Once we got the rubber ear we researched our options which led to our move. We were confident other clubs would follow after they done their research. TJ had a pop at Kelty as we were leaving through emails to the club asking if we had read the SJFA rule book on clubs leaving the grade and another pop publicly at the SJFA AGM so I feel we are fair game to have a pop on here now that we are away, we possibly didn’t have the courage to last season and seasons before. We should have all been involved as 1 driving change but it wasn’t entertained, to note Linlithgow also didn’t want to listen and refused to attend our meeting with Boness and Bonnyrigg which was a shame arguably the biggest club in the East. Why should we sit and wait to the detriment of our club when we knew we were being ignored and failed by those above. 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catakoom Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 As long as TJ and his band of yes men/puppets are in charge then there is no future for the Juniors,major change is required pronto however TJ and his puppets are stuck in the 70s 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 If anyone is interested, we have now publicly announced the result from Sundays vote.http://www.clydebankfc.com/club-statement-3/ ETA: Sensible decision for me and the one I expected, though I know a few were disappointed that we are deferring for a season and would have preferred us to go all in and apply for next season. Im sure Scott Robertson and TJ will make you feel very welcome. Bit of a daft decision given you’ll need to groundshare anyway. Will your crowds suffer due to having what is on paper a meaningless season? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 3 minutes ago, Ross. said: If anyone is interested, we have now publicly announced the result from Sundays vote. http://www.clydebankfc.com/club-statement-3/ ETA: Sensible decision for me and the one I expected, though I know a few were disappointed that we are deferring for a season and would have preferred us to go all in and apply for next season. With all the changes in the EoSFL it would be unlikely to get promotion to the Lowland League in a season. Makes this probably the best decision with momentum for a proper West of Scotland feeder now happening and Clydebank being in prime position for a place in it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyril Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 If Kelty win promotion this season, they have pulled off an absolute master stroke, basically moving from Junior to tier 5 within a season. If they don't, I would imagine if all the rumours are true, the east of Scotland league will become far more competitive next season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross. Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 3 minutes ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said: Im sure Scott Robertson and TJ will make you feel very welcome. Bit of a daft decision given you’ll need to groundshare anyway. Will your crowds suffer due to having what is on paper a meaningless season? There is a worry(Which I share) that they may try to make an example of us, but given the very recent announcements and the way the momentum appears to be going I am less fearful of that than I was a few weeks back. The SJFA are now in a position that means punishing us carries a lot more risk than it did because it could easily convince clubs/committee's who are on the fence re the SJFA that they clearly care more about themselves than the football, and it may push clubs away. Crowd wise I don't see a major impact. How we are doing on the park will have a bigger influence on that. If we are pish, our crowds will be down anyway. If we are doing well we will still get the usual boost that comes with that. The fact we now have a clear vision on where we want to be and how we are going to get there is the most important thing though. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8MileBU Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 (edited) 44 minutes ago, Ross. said: If anyone is interested, we have now publicly announced the result from Sundays vote. http://www.clydebankfc.com/club-statement-3/ ETA: Sensible decision for me and the one I expected, though I know a few were disappointed that we are deferring for a season and would have preferred us to go all in and apply for next season. Fair play to Clydebank for not wanting to go rushing into anything & upgrading their facilities first. 38 minutes ago, kefc said: Possibly through fear the club could be discriminated against for rattling the cage, we were going for a title last season and didn’t want anything derailing it. Its common knowledge that had TJ got his finger out, started talks and we had an answer or date when Junior clubs would get into the pyramid and be able to be Licenced we would have stayed. Once we got the rubber ear we researched our options which led to our move. We were confident other clubs would follow after they done their research. TJ had a pop at Kelty as we were leaving through emails to the club asking if we had read the SJFA rule book on clubs leaving the grade and another pop publicly at the SJFA AGM so I feel we are fair game to have a pop on here now that we are away, we possibly didn’t have the courage to last season and seasons before. We should have all been involved as 1 driving change but it wasn’t entertained, to note Linlithgow also didn’t want to listen and refused to attend our meeting with Boness and Bonnyrigg which was a shame arguably the biggest club in the East. Why should we sit and wait to the detriment of our club when we knew we were being ignored and failed by those above. What did he say in the emails and at the AGM? One thing I’m finding hard to fathom is how TJ has been at the helm for so long. With the obvious benefits to the pyramid and becoming licenced, you’d think/hope there’d be some individuals (or at least one person) in the SJFA administration that’d have the bollux to stand up and say ‘We need change’. Looking in from afar it’s as if the rest of the SJFA administration either have the blinkers on, or are afraid because TJ is a terrifying tyrant that’ll chop heads off if his minions don’t toe the line! Edited March 28, 2018 by 8MileBU 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Only an observer Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Heard the rumours on Saturday that Tranent Juniors were thinking about EoS application,then low and behold https://t.co/C45c7JgW9I 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bravehearts dad Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 11 hours ago, wullie robb said: 8 Mile I don't know this guy whatsoever, but it sounds like your 100% Correct in saying he's not giving it up. His statement reads along the lines of, I've sat on my arse and done nothing for years, but I've now been found out as to being absolutely useless and I'm now going to panic and spout some words to try and cover up my years of doing zero. So Scott whatever his name and his bum paper are the PR and Marketing medium chosen by T Johnston to inform the member clubs of his thoughts. Is this an autocratic decision or does he have the authority of the SJFA to use this means? What about the member clubs that don’t have a twitter account how were they informed? Anyway it stinks of desperation from Johnston try to protect his job. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Only an observer said: Heard the rumours on Saturday that Tranent Juniors were thinking about EoS application,then low and behold https://t.co/C45c7JgW9I So presumably the application is already in and this is to ratify it. Edited March 28, 2018 by LongTimeLurker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kefc Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 27 minutes ago, 8MileBU said: What did he say in the emails and at the AGM? Upon our thanks to him and everyone at the SJFA email in June for the past 37 years and that we were leaving, our attention was drawn to rule 3 page 9 which states resigning and moving regions and needing 12 months to resign. Our Secretary pointed out we weren’t resigning from a region to join another region within the SJFA and that we were resigning from the association and leaving fully. The AGM we got word back he wasn’t very complimentary about us and sarcastically said “I hope it doesn’t go wrong for them.” or words to that effect. Classless but not surprising. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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