Truthteller Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 Good luck. Others ? By meaningful consultation ie. Asking players if they wish to move to the EOSL, not telling them the club are moving anyway so take it or leave it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTG Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 18 minutes ago, Truthteller said: Strange statement HTG, It's the type and quality of players at the club who ultimately decide on what level of success the club achieves. Nobody has yet answered the question, have the clubs consulted the players ? You're not suggesting that football clubs should decide their future on the basis of what their current squad thinks? I couldn't care less what they think. They can either play for Linlithgow or go to another club. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surely not! Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 Strange statement HTG, It's the type and quality of players at the club who ultimately decide on what level of success the club achieves. Nobody has yet answered the question, have the clubs consulted the players ? It’s not. The players have a contract til likely the end of this season in most cases. Would they consult the players on any new committee member/New manager/new coach? All of which will have a huge impact on the direction of a club. HTG supports a club that’s had a big turnover of players over the last three years under various managers and caretakers managers. He’s probably in a position more than most of us to state just how far down the scale a current playing squads thoughts are for a clubs long term ambitions. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillonearth Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 8 minutes ago, Truthteller said: Good luck. Others ? By meaningful consultation ie. Asking players if they wish to move to the EOSL, not telling them the club are moving anyway so take it or leave it. These days it's less common than it used to be to have players who spend their entire career at one club...most sides have a fair degree of player turnover at the end of each season. If certain players from a club's current squad don't want to move across some reason, they move on. Simple really, and not something that'll be foremost in the minds of clubs making the decision on whether to move or not. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthteller Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 7 minutes ago, Hillonearth said: These days it's less common than it used to be to have players who spend their entire career at one club...most sides have a fair degree of player turnover at the end of each season. If certain players from a club's current squad don't want to move across some reason, they move on. Simple really, and not something that'll be foremost in the minds of clubs making the decision on whether to move or not. If clubs want to conduct their business in that way it's their choice. I just believe it would be prudent for clubs to ask players for their opinions on any possible move to another set up. Consultation not imposition. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnie_man Posted April 15, 2018 Author Share Posted April 15, 2018 11 minutes ago, Truthteller said: If clubs want to conduct their business in that way it's their choice. I just believe it would be prudent for clubs to ask players for their opinions on any possible move to another set up. Consultation not imposition. Many of those players might not even be there the following season, therefore why would a club let them influence their decision? No problem is asking their views, but they can't dictate the long term future of the club as 95% simply wont be there in 5 years time, but the guys running the club will be. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthteller Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 Good luck burnieman 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glensmad Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 Is a licence required to operate at tier 6 ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aubrey Maturin Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 1 minute ago, glensmad said: Is a licence required to operate at tier 6 ? No. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glensmad Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 13 minutes ago, Tynieness said: No. I didn't think so, but I wasn't certain. So if the juniors are incorporated into the pyramid at tier 6 as seems the most likely scenario at the moment, there is really no rush for any club to get a licence for at least two years, as the promoted sides from the top junior leagues at the end of 2019-20 would be the only ones who would need a permit at that stage. Am I correct ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
th1stleandr0se Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 2 hours ago, FairWeatherFan said: I'd imagine a big enough SPFL club would likely be voted in as club 42. I doubt that the SPFL have a fixed guideline for this situation so they can make it up as they see fit at the time. Exactly. And there isn't a fixed guideline for a parallel association merging into the leagues so they can make it up as they please for that scenario as well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lithgierose Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 2 hours ago, Truthteller said: Have any of the clubs intending to leave consulted the most important people involved in this, namely the players ? If players find it difficult either through work or family commitments to commit to playing in the EOSL or LL then that may create a problem. Are you refering to aw the junior clubs who have players on lifetime contracts,by any chance ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnie_man Posted April 15, 2018 Author Share Posted April 15, 2018 20 minutes ago, glensmad said: So if the juniors are incorporated into the pyramid at tier 6 as seems the most likely scenario at the moment. It's far from likely. The winners of the EoS and SoS require a licence to enter the promotion play-off. The winner of a future WoSFL would also require such a licence. You can't apply for a licence (and therefore SFA membership) until you join the Pyramid. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthteller Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 (edited) 3 divisions in the east region next season ? Superleague, South and North or will it be the same set up with reduced numbers Edited April 15, 2018 by Truthteller Update 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 56 minutes ago, th1stleandr0se said: Exactly. And there isn't a fixed guideline for a parallel association merging into the leagues so they can make it up as they please for that scenario as well. A single league body determining its membership is pretty easily done. However the SPFL has the Highland & Lowland named as the leagues that provide them with candidate clubs through a playoff, the Lowland has the East & South of Scotland leagues as providing clubs through a playoff/only one being licenced. So you can't just make it up as there are more than one party to consider in that circumstance. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthteller Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 (edited) 49 minutes ago, lithgierose said: Are you refering to aw the junior clubs who have players on lifetime contracts,by any chance ? No, players who may have just signed a 2 year contract to play with a club in the east region juniors only to find out his terms and conditions have changed or are changing. Edited April 15, 2018 by Truthteller 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnie_man Posted April 15, 2018 Author Share Posted April 15, 2018 1 minute ago, Truthteller said: No, players who may have just signed a 2 year contract to play with a club in the east region juniors only to find out his terms and conditions have/are changing. Their terms and conditions aren't changing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthteller Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 Different set up no ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthteller Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 Just now, Truthteller said: Different set up no ? Does the contract not say the club and set up eg. Sjfa ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnie_man Posted April 15, 2018 Author Share Posted April 15, 2018 1 minute ago, Truthteller said: Different set up no ? Does your contract or registration form say you are guaranteed to be playing Junior? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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