Drew Brees Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 22 minutes ago, AJF said: Celtic fans painting a general picture of “you all laughed but now we are vindicated” is an odd one given a large portion of their own fan base voiced their concerns regarding the appointment following the Howe fiasco. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJF Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, Drew Brees said: Fairly self explanatory 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Brees Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 1 hour ago, AJF said: Fairly self explanatory Not seeing it tbh 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJF Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 7 minutes ago, Drew Brees said: Not seeing it tbh Well, in it's simplest form, I'd say my point is it seems futile for Celtic fans to point score by making a general observation that fans of other clubs were wrong to be critical of Ange's appointment when a general observation can also be made that a large portion of Celtic fans shared the same feelings (albeit they would be hopeful of Ange's success). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 4 hours ago, TheLad said: Ordinarily I would say moving from a job in the Scottish Prem to any English Prem top half job was a good move but can't help thinking Spurs might be the exception. Such a basket case club. He would be on a hiding to nothing. He's almost 58 and would be offered a much better salary than he's on to manage a big team in the "best league in the world". I can imagine he's not struggling financially but this is a set yourself up for life situation. Especially if he's emptied because he'll fall in to another well paid job easily enough. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Brees Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 30 minutes ago, AJF said: Well, in it's simplest form, I'd say my point is it seems futile for Celtic fans to point score by making a general observation that fans of other clubs were wrong to be critical of Ange's appointment when a general observation can also be made that a large portion of Celtic fans shared the same feelings (albeit they would be hopeful of Ange's success). It’s the “but now we are vindicated” comment. Not seen anyone claim that, no one had heard of him. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 If I was one of the posters who laughed when Hearts beat celtic, then I'd like to apologise if I hurt anyones feelings. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenlantern Posted June 2, 2023 Author Share Posted June 2, 2023 10 minutes ago, bennett said: If I was one of the posters who laughed when Hearts beat celtic, then I'd like to apologise if I hurt anyones feelings. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coineanach Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 Oh aye, because fans of any other club wouldn't be giving it "who's laughing noo" and "get it up ye" if their own manager had been successful after so much "sacked by Christmas" patter... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinky67 Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, AJF said: Celtic fans painting a general picture of “you all laughed but now we are vindicated” is an odd one given a large portion of their own fan base voiced their concerns regarding the appointment following the Howe fiasco. Don’t think there were many Celtic fans claiming he was nothing better than a binman, he would be sacked by Xmas, hasnt managed at a level higher than our championship etc etc etc. And I suppose the positive is that at one point Howe was odds on and some had suspended betting with the closest then being Roy Keane. How quickly that picture changed. Edited June 2, 2023 by Jinky67 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinky67 Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 2 hours ago, DukDukGoose said: He's almost 58 and would be offered a much better salary than he's on to manage a big team in the "best league in the world". I can imagine he's not struggling financially but this is a set yourself up for life situation. Especially if he's emptied because he'll fall in to another well paid job easily enough. Granted he’s younger but would that not also apply to Arne Slot? He’s paid a similar salary to what Ange is 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJF Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 13 minutes ago, Jinky67 said: Don’t think there were many Celtic fans claiming he was nothing better than a binman, he would be sacked by Xmas, hasnt managed at a level higher than our championship etc etc etc. And I suppose the positive is that at one point Howe was odds on and some had suspended betting with the closest then being Roy Keane. How quickly that picture changed. There wasn't, I think I am more getting at the portrayal of those statements as a wider general opinion of him being incorrect. As has already been pointed out, he was a relatively unknown at the time he was appointed and both Celtic fans and non-Celtic fans alike expressed doubts about it. Some clearly went further than others in doing so. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 54 minutes ago, Jinky67 said: Granted he’s younger but would that not also apply to Arne Slot? He’s paid a similar salary to what Ange is He's also not competing in a one horse race. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Brees Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 4 hours ago, AJF said: There wasn't, I think I am more getting at the portrayal of those statements as a wider general opinion of him being incorrect. As has already been pointed out, he was a relatively unknown at the time he was appointed and both Celtic fans and non-Celtic fans alike expressed doubts about it. Some clearly went further than others in doing so. What about the ones claiming they were ‘vindicated’, where are they?? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insaintee Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 My thoughts at the time of AP joining Celtic was that the **** would have been delighted to take Clark while at the time (and probably still) APs track record was much better. Clark having a bit more experience of the Scottish Game. The media were in a feeding frenzy if I recall and lots of **** bought into it and were giving it the point and laugh. They clearly expected AP to fail and SG to flourish and not jump ship at the first opportunity. The **** I would have said were split on AP certainly there were angry **** on phone ins. It was a big job and it is remarkable what he's done. But like Rodgers I suspect the time for him to try something else has come. Does he really want another treble and a doing in Europe, or does he want to try his hand with a team has the money to compete. Like when Goodwin left St Mirren, I could not really blame him if he does but think the EPL might be a stretch to far. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuMoore Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 If the gravy guzzler does go does he take Kyogo and Hatate with him, maybe even a CCV renaissance? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 2 hours ago, Insaintee said: My thoughts at the time of AP joining Celtic was that the **** would have been delighted to take Clark while at the time (and probably still) APs track record was much better. Clark having a bit more experience of the Scottish Game. The media were in a feeding frenzy if I recall and lots of **** bought into it and were giving it the point and laugh. They clearly expected AP to fail and SG to flourish and not jump ship at the first opportunity. The **** I would have said were split on AP certainly there were angry **** on phone ins. It was a big job and it is remarkable what he's done. But like Rodgers I suspect the time for him to try something else has come. Does he really want another treble and a doing in Europe, or does he want to try his hand with a team has the money to compete. Like when Goodwin left St Mirren, I could not really blame him if he does but think the EPL might be a stretch to far. Come on now. He's a brilliant manager but is at the best run club, with the biggest budget and the best recruitment team. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinky67 Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 2 hours ago, RuMoore said: If the gravy guzzler does go does he take Kyogo and Hatate with him, maybe even a CCV renaissance? Bit ironic that mate when your own gaffer is carrying a decent amount of excess timber himself 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgiosSamaras Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 3 hours ago, RuMoore said: If the gravy guzzler does go does he take Kyogo and Hatate with him, maybe even a CCV renaissance? Don't you worry, he'll not go near the perennial losers. Hall of famer Tav and all his runner up medals won't be on the menu for old "gravy guzzler". What's your favourite Rangers nearly did it moment? Don't think you can beat the Europa League final personally, just wonderful to see your bunch of bottlers shit the bed as usual. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theroadlesstravelled Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 7 hours ago, RuMoore said: If the gravy guzzler does go does he take Kyogo and Hatate with him, maybe even a CCV renaissance? There's zero chance those 3 make it in the Barclays. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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