nsr Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 Sounds like they're just pulling out some vague and entirely subjective measure as an excuse not to give you more money. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A.F.C Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 Sounds like they're just pulling out some vague and entirely subjective measure as an excuse not to give you more money.Yep think so. Sucks balls. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Pikey Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 29 minutes ago, D.A.F.C said: Yearly appraisal. Despite being given the highest mark possible have been told I lack confidence. What I'm supposed to do to demonstrate this I have no idea? I've been training several senior colleagues and doing loads outside my role for years. The doss c***s I bail out dont give a f**k and literally run out the door after doing half a job did they get confidence issues marked down? Nope. Really odd and totally pissed me off to the point where I want to leave. Thank f**k I don't have to endure any of this shite either being appraised or doing the appraisal. I cannot see the point of highlighting people's failings, no one likes criticism , fair or not, I don't care what they say..My appraisal of people I've worked with or be in charge of over the years has 3 categories.. 1. Good c***s 2. Sound c***s 3. Utter c***s. We only have one type 3 at the moment and she is about to be binned thank God. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 4 minutes ago, D.A.F.C said: Yearly appraisal. Despite being given the highest mark possible have been told I lack confidence. What I'm supposed to do to demonstrate this I have no idea? I've been training several senior colleagues and doing loads outside my role for years. The doss c***s I bail out dont give a f**k and literally run out the door after doing half a job did they get confidence issues marked down? Nope. Really odd and totally pissed me off to the point where I want to leave. Take a shite on your next appraisal and hand it back to them, ask them if that displays enough confidence for them. In all seriousness, I've found with appraisals that gaffers will rarely give out top marks for everything, they need to have an area for the employee to look to improve. "Lacks confidence" when they're happy with every other aspect of your work sounds like they've just thought something up to write in a comments box. I wouldn't worry too much about it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A.F.C Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 Thank f**k I don't have to endure any of this shite either being appraised or doing the appraisal. I cannot see the point of highlighting people's failings, no one likes criticism , fair or not, I don't care what they say..My appraisal of people I've worked with or be in charge of over the years has 3 categories.. 1. Good c***s 2. Sound c***s 3. Utter c***s. We only have one type 3 at the moment and she is about to be binned thank God. Totally agree. It's not the first time I've been told polar opposites at appraisals and out of nowhere.You're really good at xThe reason you didnt get promoted was down to not being good at xThis was within weeks.Appraisal Can you do your job Are you producing more or less than others What is the quality of your work likeTime off and timekeepingWhat have you done outside your roleDoes it have to be so complicated? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busta Nut Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 18 hours ago, Cerberus said: For the last few months I have been horrifically phoning it in at work. The management’s terrible decisions have killed my spirit for the company and the job. As nothing has been getting done and I’ve been kidding on I am busy they moved someone across to help me out. This other dude has been doing all my work alongside his own job so they recently hired a contractor to help him. I now have 2 people doing my job. They are about to replace you mate. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 4 hours ago, The Moonster said: In all seriousness, I've found with appraisals that gaffers will rarely give out top marks for everything, they need to have an area for the employee to look to improve. "Lacks confidence" when they're happy with every other aspect of your work sounds like they've just thought something up to write in a comments box. I wouldn't worry too much about it. It's probably even more mundane and depressing than that. I've heard it said, by multiple people, that you need to come up with a criticism purely so that if HR can ever be arsed to look at the paperwork, it won't come across as though you both decided to say "everything's fine" and sign it off. Which is what most of us would do, let's be honest. My last appraisal criticism was that there's some paperwork I should be doing, and Head Office have complained that they haven't received any of it since I started. My response was that I'd never heard of this paperwork, had no idea where to find the forms I was supposed to be filling out, and would most likely have no idea what to put on them anyway as I hadn't received any of the training needed to do so. Heard nothing about it since then. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 We've recently ended up with a new boss who's gone power mad. I fully expect my next appraisal to take several hours, and consist of a list of every missed target, every piece of misfiled paperwork, every tea break that ran over by seconds, every disparaging social media post...oh shit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud1876 Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 My boss is class at appraisals.Boss: awright.Me: awright.Boss: job going ok?Me: aye.Boss: that's us finished for another year then.Had a similar boss in my last job.Me: Can I knock off early to get to the football?Boss: Aye.. no problem... hope yous get fucked.AN other: Can I get away early for a dentist appointment?Boss: Let's see your appointment card... no card ... no getting away early [emoji1] When Scotland played Brazil in the opening game for the 98 world cup ... they shut down the whole place at noon.We were all paid for the rest of the day and our hourly production bonus was also averaged on what we had made that week. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerberus Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 4 hours ago, BigFatTabbyDave said: We've recently ended up with a new boss who's gone power mad. I fully expect my next appraisal to take several hours, and consist of a list of every missed target, every piece of misfiled paperwork, every tea break that ran over by seconds, every disparaging social media post...oh shit. We have a new director and he's made it clear he only wants his own guys in. He wants an extensive network of gimps and micro-managers who he has personally vetted as being little bitches who will cover his fat ass at every turn so he can sit all day doing nothing while everyone else is busy. He tries to piss off anyone who doesn't fit into this category (like me) so they leave. Little does he know that I've worked for the NHS and can withstand a lot of shit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaboz Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Our yearly appraisals are every November. It consists of doing an extensive eating system based on around a dozen general traits such as trust and value contribution. These take, if done properly, around an hour or longer each.We send a request to around 10 of whom we perceive to be most relevantly closesly effected by our work.It's a good system in a way, but it's extremely time consuming. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hk blues Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 4 hours ago, Stellaboz said: Our yearly appraisals are every November. It consists of doing an extensive eating system based on around a dozen general traits such as trust and value contribution. These take, if done properly, around an hour or longer each. We send a request to around 10 of whom we perceive to be most relevantly closesly effected by our work. It's a good system in a way, but it's extremely time consuming. I think appraisal systems can be effective when done as they are meant to be , But, what you describe seems to be overkill and not a great use of time. Especially when most employees look at the results and say "Bollocks , he's never liked me anyway" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 8 hours ago, Stellaboz said: Our yearly appraisals are every November. It consists of doing an extensive eating system based on around a dozen general traits such as trust and value contribution. These take, if done properly, around an hour or longer each. We send a request to around 10 of whom we perceive to be most relevantly closesly effected by our work. It's a good system in a way, but it's extremely time consuming. Do you eat watches? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaboz Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Do you eat watches?I gobble down clocks 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizfit Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 I’ve been sitting next to one of the senior management today. Never again. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 (edited) 13 hours ago, Cerberus said: We have a new director and he's made it clear he only wants his own guys in. He wants an extensive network of gimps and micro-managers who he has personally vetted as being little bitches who will cover his fat ass at every turn so he can sit all day doing nothing while everyone else is busy. He tries to piss off anyone who doesn't fit into this category (like me) so they leave. Little does he know that I've worked for the NHS and can withstand a lot of shit. Really surprising he wants guys in he can delegate to and trust as opposed to guys phoning it in as they are in the huff. Edited July 2, 2019 by invergowrie arab 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 1 hour ago, Stellaboz said: 1 hour ago, Zen Archer said: Do you eat watches? I gobble down clocks Come on P&B, it's been an hour. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason King Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 19 hours ago, BigFatTabbyDave said: My last appraisal criticism was that there's some paperwork I should be doing, and Head Office have complained that they haven't received any of it since I started. My response was that I'd never heard of this paperwork, had no idea where to find the forms I was supposed to be filling out, and would most likely have no idea what to put on them anyway as I hadn't received any of the training needed to do so. Heard nothing about it since then. A former colleague and I once decided the easiest way to complete our annual appraisals was for him to submit my one from the previous year and for me to submit his one from the previous year. Worked a treat. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillonearth Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 I'm convinced the entire appraisal system at my place is designed to make some otherwise under-employed middle managers feel like they have a function. As they don't tie into either pay or bonuses, there's very little need to continue putting much effort into the process, which most of the smarter people have twigged some time ago...it's only the real management dweebs who still make out like they're important. Realistically we should only have to raise one in cases where either someone's actively seeking internal promotion in order to give interviewers some insight into the person or alternatively in cases where they're failing in their job where one could be used as the basis of an improvement plan. My suggestion that we do just that was met with complete horror. You'd have thought I'd just suggested we start bumming seal pups. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 Some of these stories make me think you all work in this place - 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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