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29 minutes ago, D.A.F.C said:

Yearly appraisal. Despite being given the highest mark possible have been told I lack confidence.

What I'm supposed to do to demonstrate this I have no idea?

I've been training several senior colleagues and doing loads outside my role for years.

The doss c***s I bail out dont give a f**k and literally run out the door after doing half a job did they get confidence issues marked down? Nope.

Really odd and totally pissed me off to the point where I want to leave.

 

 

 

 

Thank f**k I don't have to endure any of this shite either being appraised  or doing the appraisal.  I cannot see the point of highlighting people's failings,  no one likes criticism , fair or not,  I don't care what they say..My appraisal of people I've worked with or be in charge of over the years has 3 categories..

1. Good c***s

2. Sound c***s

3. Utter c***s.

We only have one type 3 at the moment and she is about to be binned thank God.

 

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4 minutes ago, D.A.F.C said:

Yearly appraisal. Despite being given the highest mark possible have been told I lack confidence.

What I'm supposed to do to demonstrate this I have no idea?

I've been training several senior colleagues and doing loads outside my role for years.

The doss c***s I bail out dont give a f**k and literally run out the door after doing half a job did they get confidence issues marked down? Nope.

Really odd and totally pissed me off to the point where I want to leave.

Take a shite on your next appraisal and hand it back to them, ask them if that displays enough confidence for them.

In all seriousness, I've found with appraisals that gaffers will rarely give out top marks for everything, they need to have an area for the employee to look to improve.  "Lacks confidence" when they're happy with every other aspect of your work sounds like they've just thought something up to write in a comments box. I wouldn't worry too much about it.

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Thank f**k I don't have to endure any of this shite either being appraised  or doing the appraisal.  I cannot see the point of highlighting people's failings,  no one likes criticism , fair or not,  I don't care what they say..My appraisal of people I've worked with or be in charge of over the years has 3 categories..
1. Good c***s
2. Sound c***s
3. Utter c***s.
We only have one type 3 at the moment and she is about to be binned thank God.
 
Totally agree. It's not the first time I've been told polar opposites at appraisals and out of nowhere.
You're really good at x
The reason you didnt get promoted was down to not being good at x
This was within weeks.

Appraisal
Can you do your job
Are you producing more or less than others
What is the quality of your work like
Time off and timekeeping
What have you done outside your role

Does it have to be so complicated?
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18 hours ago, Cerberus said:

For the last few months I have been horrifically phoning it in at work.
The management’s terrible decisions have killed my spirit for the company and the job.

As nothing has been getting done and I’ve been kidding on I am busy they moved someone across to help me out. This other dude has been doing all my work alongside his own job so they recently hired a contractor to help him.
I now have 2 people doing my job.

They are about to replace you mate.

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4 hours ago, The Moonster said:

In all seriousness, I've found with appraisals that gaffers will rarely give out top marks for everything, they need to have an area for the employee to look to improve.  "Lacks confidence" when they're happy with every other aspect of your work sounds like they've just thought something up to write in a comments box. I wouldn't worry too much about it.

It's probably even more mundane and depressing than that. I've heard it said, by multiple people, that you need to come up with a criticism purely so that if HR can ever be arsed to look at the paperwork, it won't come across as though you both decided to say "everything's fine" and sign it off. Which is what most of us would do, let's be honest.

My last appraisal criticism was that there's some paperwork I should be doing, and Head Office have complained that they haven't received any of it since I started. My response was that I'd never heard of this paperwork, had no idea where to find the forms I was supposed to be filling out, and would most likely have no idea what to put on them anyway as I hadn't received any of the training needed to do so. Heard nothing about it since then.

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We've recently ended up with a new boss who's gone power mad. I fully expect my next appraisal to take several hours, and consist of a list of every missed target, every piece of misfiled paperwork, every tea break that ran over by seconds, every disparaging social media post...oh shit.

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My boss is class at appraisals.

Boss: awright.
Me: awright.
Boss: job going ok?
Me: aye.
Boss: that's us finished for another year then.
Had a similar boss in my last job.

Me: Can I knock off early to get to the football?
Boss: Aye.. no problem... hope yous get fucked.

AN other: Can I get away early for a dentist appointment?
Boss: Let's see your appointment card... no card ... no getting away early [emoji1]

When Scotland played Brazil in the opening game for the 98 world cup ... they shut down the whole place at noon.
We were all paid for the rest of the day and our hourly production bonus was also averaged on what we had made that week.
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4 hours ago, BigFatTabbyDave said:

We've recently ended up with a new boss who's gone power mad. I fully expect my next appraisal to take several hours, and consist of a list of every missed target, every piece of misfiled paperwork, every tea break that ran over by seconds, every disparaging social media post...oh shit.

 

We have a new director and he's made it clear he only wants his own guys in. He wants an extensive network of gimps and micro-managers who he has personally vetted as being little bitches who will cover his fat ass at every turn so he can sit all day doing nothing while everyone else is busy.
He tries to piss off anyone who doesn't fit into this category (like me) so they leave.

Little does he know that I've worked for the NHS and can withstand a lot of shit.

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Our yearly appraisals are every November. It consists of doing an extensive eating system based on around a dozen general traits such as trust and value contribution. These take, if done properly, around an hour or longer each.

We send a request to around 10 of whom we perceive to be most relevantly closesly effected by our work.

It's a good system in a way, but it's extremely time consuming.

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4 hours ago, Stellaboz said:

Our yearly appraisals are every November. It consists of doing an extensive eating system based on around a dozen general traits such as trust and value contribution. These take, if done properly, around an hour or longer each.

We send a request to around 10 of whom we perceive to be most relevantly closesly effected by our work.

It's a good system in a way, but it's extremely time consuming.

I think appraisal systems can be effective when done as they are  meant to be ,  But, what you describe seems to be overkill and not a great use of time.  Especially when most employees look at the results and say "Bollocks , he's never liked me anyway" 

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8 hours ago, Stellaboz said:

Our yearly appraisals are every November. It consists of doing an extensive eating system based on around a dozen general traits such as trust and value contribution. These take, if done properly, around an hour or longer each.

We send a request to around 10 of whom we perceive to be most relevantly closesly effected by our work.

It's a good system in a way, but it's extremely time consuming.

Do you eat watches?

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13 hours ago, Cerberus said:

 

We have a new director and he's made it clear he only wants his own guys in. He wants an extensive network of gimps and micro-managers who he has personally vetted as being little bitches who will cover his fat ass at every turn so he can sit all day doing nothing while everyone else is busy.
He tries to piss off anyone who doesn't fit into this category (like me) so they leave.

Little does he know that I've worked for the NHS and can withstand a lot of shit.

Really surprising he wants guys in he can delegate to and trust as opposed to guys phoning it in as they are in the huff.

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19 hours ago, BigFatTabbyDave said:

My last appraisal criticism was that there's some paperwork I should be doing, and Head Office have complained that they haven't received any of it since I started. My response was that I'd never heard of this paperwork, had no idea where to find the forms I was supposed to be filling out, and would most likely have no idea what to put on them anyway as I hadn't received any of the training needed to do so. Heard nothing about it since then.

A former colleague and I once decided the easiest way to  complete our annual appraisals was for him to submit my one from the previous year and for me to submit his one from the previous year.

Worked a treat.

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I'm convinced the entire appraisal system at my place is designed to make some otherwise under-employed middle managers feel like they have a function.

As they don't tie into either pay or bonuses, there's very little need to continue putting much effort into the process, which most of the smarter people have twigged some time ago...it's only the real management dweebs who still make out like they're important.

Realistically we should only have to raise  one in cases where either someone's actively seeking internal promotion in order to give interviewers some insight into the person or alternatively in cases where they're failing in their job where one could be used as the basis of an improvement plan.

My suggestion that we do just that was met with complete horror.

You'd have thought I'd just suggested we start bumming seal pups.

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