Lurkst Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 On Tuesday, November 21, 2017 at 12:25, HibeeJibee said: Looks like Queen's Park have had enough of one-sided coverage and so a substantial article with quotes from them appears in today's paper. Basically it clarifies SFA currently pays £308, 907 in rent - which QP say they make back with profit just from leasing office space to other football bodies, the Museum, plus Injury Clinic... i.e. before taking into consideration concerts, dinners, conferences or income from internationals and cup SFs & Finals. They say reports of an £800k rent which appeared in the press are misleading as it includes £500k SFA is effectively paying to itself - until 2014 some £200k went to QP and £600k to debt interest, but once the debt was cleared £800k was continued with £500k represented as stadium maintenance in the budget. QP say they've had no evidence of why it would cost "many, many millions" to renew - and if over poor maintenance that's due to SFA. Finishes with stuff about flexibility and cultural significance. Here's the statement from QPFC... http://www.queensparkfc.co.uk/?p=6195 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worktheshaft Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 I don't quite know how to put this. Anyone suggesting a stadium in the Stirling area is a fucking moron. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurkst Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 8 hours ago, Worktheshaft said: I don't quite know how to put this. Anyone suggesting a stadium in the Stirling area is a fucking moron. Actually are there any examples of mega stadia built about an hour's journey outside of the nearest major city? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordopolis Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 I don't quite know how to put this. Anyone suggesting a stadium in the Stirling area is a fucking moron. You're right... you don't know how to put it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gannonball Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 1 hour ago, Lurkst said: Actually are there any examples of mega stadia built about an hour's journey outside of the nearest major city? An hour to Stirling? Its less than 40 mins in the car from glasgow according to google, half an hour on the train. If it such a ridiculous option then why would need to exaggerate? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted November 24, 2017 Author Share Posted November 24, 2017 1 hour ago, Lurkst said: Actually are there any examples of mega stadia built about an hour's journey outside of the nearest major city? I'd suspect it's almost unknown. My knowledge of Eire geography is limited but Semple Stadium (capacity 53,500) - their 2nd largest - is in Thurles (population 7,900). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisal Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 45 minutes ago, Lurkst said: Actually are there any examples of mega stadia built about an hour's journey outside of the nearest major city? If you were to build an out of town stadium it would make most sense to have it near the M73 at Baillieston. Plenty space, in the middle of Scotlands population centre. Close to M8, M73 and M74. Rail links direct to Edinburgh, Lanarkshire. Glasgow central and Glasgow Queen street. with the ability to use the current network to run direct footbal specials from any of the Stirling inverness /Aberdeen lines if needed. The X900 bus that runs between Edinburgh and Glasgow every 15 minutes and corpy busses all the time. Its perfect. Plus I could walk to the 2021 cup final. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worktheshaft Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 If you were to build an out of town stadium it would make most sense to have it near the M73 at Baillieston. Plenty space, in the middle of Scotlands population centre. Close to M8, M73 and M74. Rail links direct to Edinburgh, Lanarkshire. Glasgow central and Glasgow Queen street. with the ability to use the current network to run direct footbal specials from any of the Stirling inverness /Aberdeen lines if needed. The X900 bus that runs between Edinburgh and Glasgow every 15 minutes and corpy busses all the time. Its perfect. Plus I could walk to the 2021 cup final. The whole having a rail link to run special train services is a non starter. Scotrail do not have the additional rolling stock to meet the demand. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisal Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 Just now, Worktheshaft said: The whole having a rail link to run special train services is a non starter. Scotrail do not have the additional rolling stock to meet the demand. Oh well you'll have to walk down the stairs to change at Queen street then . Wait a minute you're from Dennistoun. get a train from Bellgrove 10 minutes you're there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worktheshaft Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 Oh well you'll have to walk down the stairs to change at Queen street then . Wait a minute you're from Dennistoun. get a train from Bellgrove 10 minutes you're there. Well I agree it would be convenient for me.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Hamish Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 New motorway links in recent years have been brilliant at getting thru quicker from Edinburgh. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenny131 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 On 21/11/2017 at 21:33, HibeeJibee said: If you search online for "SFA turnover" you'll find various press releases, news articles and such like. For the 2016 financial year, reported in June this year, the turnover of the "SFA group of companies" - i.e. including Hampden Park Ltd, the Museum, the Sports Clinic and possibly SSC + Business Club - was £35.8M. Annual Review - on website - broke down turnover excluding those subsidiaries (£30.8M) as:* 35% TV/radio * 22% Scottish Cup * 13% UEFA/FIFA * 11% commercial * 10% football development * 5% international gate receipts * 4% other Previous 4 years were £29.4M, £31.8M, £28.5M, £29.6M. Average over 5yrs = £30.1M. Incidentally expenditure broke down as:* 35% payments to member clubs * 25% staffing * 18% match costs * 10% football development * 9% other administrative * 3% departmental 25 % in wages to 10% in football development that's honking 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurkst Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 7 hours ago, kenny131 said: 25 % in wages to 10% in football development that's honking Stewart Regan's on around £300k a year. Get rid of him and that's Hampden's bills paid for. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordopolis Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 16 hours ago, Lurkst said: Stewart Regan's on around £300k a year. Get rid of him and that's Hampden's bills paid for. Or build a new stadium... and make him pay for it! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted December 12, 2017 Author Share Posted December 12, 2017 SFA powwow is tomorrow according to today's paper, which strikes a sombre note about Hampden's prospects, although apparently concern about lost revenues streams has raised its head. Presumably timed to coincide they've released a survey from the Supporters Association claiming only 15% of fans want to stay at Hampden, which depending on the wording astonished me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnie_man Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 It's actually 41%, but 15% makes for a better headline. Plus there is no indication in the survey as to how many of those who responded attend Hampden regularly. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armand 2 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Fergus McCann calling it correctly again. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7-2 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 They will never leave Hampden. The idea of pumping even more money into the bigot brothers by using their stadia will be vastly appealing to the Hampden suits but the need for a neutral venue in Glasgow for cup bigotfests combined with Scottish football not doing change will see them remain. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, HibeeJibee said: SFA powwow is tomorrow according to today's paper, which strikes a sombre note about Hampden's prospects, although apparently concern about lost revenues streams has raised its head. Presumably timed to coincide they've released a survey from the Supporters Association claiming only 15% of fans want to stay at Hampden, which depending on the wording astonished me. 2 hours ago, Burnie_man said: It's actually 41%, but 15% makes for a better headline. Plus there is no indication in the survey as to how many of those who responded attend Hampden regularly. This survey comes from the SFSA, an organisation with zero credibility. A glance at their Twitter feed or their most recent newsletter will give you an idea of the sort of people they are trying to attract - a bunch of chip on the shoulder moaners who lash out indiscriminately at everything and everyone. The Scottish football equivalent of Trump supporters or Brexiteers, if you will. There is no way this is even remotely a representative survey of Scottish football supporters, and it's mad that so many news organisations are taking it seriously. Edited December 12, 2017 by craigkillie 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurkst Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 29 minutes ago, craigkillie said: This survey comes from the SFSA, an organisation with zero credibility. A glance at their Twitter feed or their most recent newsletter will give you an idea of the sort of people they are trying to attract - a bunch of chip on the shoulder moaners who lash out indiscriminately at everything and everyone. The Scottish football equivalent of Trump supporters or Brexiteers, if you will. There is no way this is even remotely a representative survey of Scottish football supporters, and it's mad that so many news organisations are taking it seriously. Heard their spokesman on the radio this morning, he sounds like an Englishman. Are there no Scots capable of running our football organisations? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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