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19 hours ago, Dons_1988 said:

 


Indeed.

Soccernomics has an interesting chapter on the correlation of transfer fees and success and wages and success.

Admittedly it’s focused on England but the ‘net spend’ of clubs on transfer fees has seemingly very little bearing on the success of a club.

Level of wages however give or take basically predicts a league table.

 

I'm doubtless overcomplicating this - and I fully get the thrust of the post, plus it'd probably help if I'd read Soccernomics! - but there will be some sort of impact on the level of European competition on offer at a club, too?

First round exits to part-time diddies from Here Be Dragons countries and failing to progres beyond the early stages is significantly less attractive than probable exposure in the CL group stages and beyond. Although that may be covered in a kind of wages premium on players, I guess - Man City's early transfer dealings prior to becoming CL regulars were pretty hit and miss, but they just soaked up any losses on guys like Clauber or whoever else failed to make any impact and reaped the rewards from paying big bux for Kompany, Aguero etc. They're now significantly more attractive thanks to being an established CL side, I'd think.

Taxation (rather fitting subject in this thread) would most likely have an impact on any comparisons between countries, too, although within a league every club is (or fucking should be) playing by the same rules when it comes to their tax liabilities. I think there may be diminishing returns for those paying higher wages on the quality of player you can attract depending on the tax bands - iirc Arshavin ended up with a lower take-home pay when he signed for Arsenal despite nearly doubling his wages, for instance.

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3 hours ago, Jdog said:

The absolute state of her.  Clutching her diamante fucking white spirit adamantly offended about something or other.  You can't possibly want to back up this kind of trout just because you nominally support the same football team.  Surely.

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20 minutes ago, Estragon said:

The absolute state of her.  Clutching her diamante fucking white spirit adamantly offended about something or other.  You can't possibly want to back up this kind of trout just because you nominally support the same football team.  Surely.

Actually I've realised why the staff didn't want to handle the bottle directly. They didn't want their fingerprints on it in case it was later used as a petrol bomb.

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39 minutes ago, Estragon said:

The absolute state of her.  Clutching her diamante fucking white spirit adamantly offended about something or other.  You can't possibly want to back up this kind of trout just because you nominally support the same football team.  Surely.

Calm down hen, she's a bellend for going to the press, but the 2 staff members in a members only club saying their offended selling it and refusing to touch it is equally pathetic, can see them getting demoted or worse for that.

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5 minutes ago, Jdog said:

Calm down hen, she's a bellend for going to the press, but the 2 staff members in a members only club saying their offended selling it and refusing to touch it is equally pathetic, can see them getting demoted or worse for that.

Why? It's Costco, not the SFA - Celtic have no influence over them.

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42 minutes ago, Jdog said:

Calm down hen, she's a bellend for going to the press, but the 2 staff members in a members only club saying their offended selling it and refusing to touch it is equally pathetic, can see them getting demoted or worse for that.

Why?

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2 hours ago, GordonS said:

It's not faux outrage.

It's actual, justified outrage.

We live in a society still riven by sectarianism, and the Old Firm are heavily embroiled in the even worse forms of it in Northern Ireland. Rangers choosing an orange strip makes it so much worse in so many ways. The single worst part of it is that it lends credibility to sectarianism in the eyes of those who are influenced by it. It's a nod to them that hey, we all hate the kaffliks really. 

Neither half of the Old Firm has done nearly enough to tackle sectarianism, but Rangers have, in several ways and on several occasions, positively encouraged it.

This doesn't belong on the banter page though, because there's f**k all funny about it. People get seriously hurt. And if you try to laugh it off, you're absolutely part of the problem.

" Actual justified outrage" over a football strips colour.....

Rangers have, in several ways and on several occasions, positively encouraged it." I'm sure that you can provide examples?

 

You're an awfy intolerant chap Gordy.

 

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3 hours ago, GordonS said:

It's not faux outrage.

It's actual, justified outrage.

We live in a society still riven by sectarianism, and the Old Firm are heavily embroiled in the even worse forms of it in Northern Ireland. Rangers choosing an orange strip makes it so much worse in so many ways. The single worst part of it is that it lends credibility to sectarianism in the eyes of those who are influenced by it. It's a nod to them that hey, we all hate the kaffliks really. 

Neither half of the Old Firm has done nearly enough to tackle sectarianism, but Rangers have, in several ways and on several occasions, positively encouraged it.

This doesn't belong on the banter page though, because there's f**k all funny about it. People get seriously hurt. And if you try to laugh it off, you're absolutely part of the problem.

Are you surprised when the person you're quoting accepts racism and glorified child abuse? That the absolute fucking mutant is still allowed to post on here is a joke.

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25 minutes ago, Les Westander of County said:

BBC news has Joey Barton's endorsement for Steven Gerrard:

Joey Barton is backing Steven Gerrard to be a success at Rangers because "slow, plodding midfielders tend to be good managers".

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44359100

 

So it seems he doesnt say anything remotely like this about Gerrard. Between this and the "Killie will win the league headline" from a couple of weeks ago it seems the BBC are plqying up to Daily Express levels of clickbait.

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4 hours ago, GordonS said:

It's not faux outrage.

It's actual, justified outrage.

We live in a society still riven by sectarianism, and the Old Firm are heavily embroiled in the even worse forms of it in Northern Ireland. Rangers choosing an orange strip makes it so much worse in so many ways. The single worst part of it is that it lends credibility to sectarianism in the eyes of those who are influenced by it. It's a nod to them that hey, we all hate the kaffliks really. 

Neither half of the Old Firm has done nearly enough to tackle sectarianism, but Rangers have, in several ways and on several occasions, positively encouraged it.

This doesn't belong on the banter page though, because there's f**k all funny about it. People get seriously hurt. And if you try to laugh it off, you're absolutely part of the problem.

It is a method of distraction at this point.

No commercial person in their right mind would see it as a good long term commercial decision but that is not how GR are operating with the current owners. 

It certainly seems that the last two directors resigning has led to a not a care in the wothe or staunchness from Ibrox.

I suppose by now they have figured out that there is no super hero with “investment” willing to piss away their money on them. Take the short term commercial decision and bleed from the stone.

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23 hours ago, DeeBairn said:

Celtic spent over 70 million on running the entire organisation. 500 or so staff, not quite the same thing as spending it on a team of 25 or so players. Theres your difference.

What's amusing though is how uncomfortable the Celtic fans on here are about their own success.  They are in the pink financially and achieving plenty on the park.  Rather than laugh at Dingwall's comments they get all huffy and start a thread.  Quite clearly, their comfort zone includes:

The fake news story like the Gerrard Pro License fiasco
The Edinburgh Costco vodka wifey
Rangers' orange tops

Give them a story which highlights how successful they are and which is basically complimentary towards them and they haven't a clue how to deal with it.  Give them an ill-researched piece of gossip which may possibly be defamatory towards Rangers and they are all over it like a B-List divorced American actress with a ginger English prince.


 

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