Dominique Malonga Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 No they fucking can't. Anyway, mind when folk were looking forward to playing us at Murrayfield at the start of the season, but then the novelty wore off after five minutes? Yeah, you can maybe extend that to about five matches for this one before reality sinks in. Letting your weasel chairman away with all this. We chased Pieman Robinson out of the club when he branded Tynecastle 'not fit for purpose'. You wouldn't have to chase for long to be fair. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 , or come close to the same period of dominance they had in the 1980s, Hibs won the last 3 of their 4 titles in a 5 year period. You should know these things. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdTheDuck Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 (edited) Off topic again but... In terms of average attendances since the second world war HMFC 15,039 HFC 13,582 AFC 13,433 In terms of trophies in the same period HMFC 10 including ancient history 16 HFC 7 10 AFC 19 19 From their election to the Scottish League in 1905/06 Aberdeen took 41 years to win their first trophy in 1946/47. By a strange coincidence that same year, 1905/06 Hearts won the Scottish Cup and didn't win anything else for 49 years until 1954/55. Hibs went 45 years from 1902/03 to 1947/48 without a trophy. Since then Aberdeen's longest run without a trophy was from 95/96 to 2013/14 (17 seasons, the longest post-war run without a trophy, also coinciding with Milne's involvement with the club). Hibs went from 51/52 to 72/73, 20 trophyless seasons and Hearts went 34 years from 62/63 to 97/98 with nothing. So in terms of fans, Hearts are clearly the biggest but in terms of trophies Aberdeen win, in the modern era win by a country mile and as far as consistency is concerned rather than the odd burst of success followed by huge tracts of barren seasons, win again. That's without mentioning the European trophies...oops just did. I know which I prefer. Edited January 29, 2018 by EdTheDuck Did Hearts an injustic 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 2 hours ago, Hibernia said: Or come close to the same period of dominance they had in the 1980s, we will not be bigger than them The 1980s were a great time for the Dandies but they weren't dominant. Celtic won more league titles. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Whitburn Vale Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 Superb news and long overdue. All this talk of location is a pile of pish,it will be right next to the AWPR dual carriageway plus Aberdeen is expanding all the time,the stadium in 10 yrs time will not be on the western edge of the city anymore. I'm sure better bus links will be set up in due time 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdTheDuck Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 1 minute ago, Whitburn Vale said: Superb news and long overdue. All this talk of location is a pile of pish,it will be right next to the AWPR dual carriageway plus Aberdeen is expanding all the time,the stadium in 10 yrs time will not be on the western edge of the city anymore. I'm sure better bus links will be set up in due time Oh, well, that's ok then. I was a little worried before... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lubo_blaha Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 Can’t say I agree that we’re moving 7 miles out of Aberdeen but it’s done now and we need to get on with it. This is where the fans need to seriously put pressure on the club to make this stadium as good as possible. 3000+ standing area and multiplying the bar areas by four would be a start. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdTheDuck Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 3 minutes ago, lubo_blaha said: Can’t say I agree that we’re moving 7 miles out of Aberdeen but it’s done now and we need to get on with it. This is where the fans need to seriously put pressure on the club to make this stadium as good as possible. 3000+ standing area and multiplying the bar areas by four would be a start. Couldn't agree more. Put as much pressure as we can on the boardroom incumbents, which translates as "if you build it (wrong), they will not come" Ha! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgecutter Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 So in terms of fans, Hearts are clearly the biggest At risk of kicking off a 'what makes it bigger - attendances or fans' argument, those figures are for supporters, ie those that actually turn up for the games. Fan numbers on the other hand are a bit more difficult to quantify, but as somebody highlighted earlier, Aberdeen is a rather popular club across the whole of the North East area where well over half a million people reside (former Grampian region anyway) with only one major team in the area. The Moray towns for example have numerous Dons fans, but only a minority travel those 60 odd miles (hour and half drive) to the home games for obvious reasons. Hearts essentially rely on the Lothians and more recently parts of Fife, but this is a catchment half an hour drive from Glasgow that contains two big team in addition to smaller full time outfits, and that's including the numerous West Lothian orange lodge hellholes. They'll inevitably have fewer background fans. Essentially, it's far more convenient for Hearts 'fans' in their catchment to travel to Tynecastle than it is for the Aberdeen counterparts to reach Pittodrie (not just due to distance but also regional infrastructure etc), hence it would be no surprise if a smaller club like Hearts had marginally higher attendances over the years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 I hope the new stadium is brilliant with a bus transfer from the city center as part of the ticket and a first class training facility for upcoming Scottish talent outside of Glasgow, but can we all agree not to tell Willie Miller that we've moved and just leave him wandering round Pittodrie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lubo_blaha Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 Couldn't agree more. Put as much pressure as we can on the boardroom incumbents, which translates as "if you build it (wrong), they will not come" Ha! Milne is an incompetent imbecile with a track record of financial mismanagement and strategic failure but there have been times in the past where he’s been swayed by the opinion from the fans (ie. 2012). As things stand, we’re building a bar the size of the Pittodrie Bar and Yuke said he was impressed by Viking FK’s standing area (capacity circa 100), make of that what you will. We need to make it clear that we won’t stand for a piss poor set up, we’ve already conceded to having shallower stands to appease the locals, an utterly shitebag move. Kingsford has a lot of potential; potential to be quite good but also potential to be completely shite. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgecutter Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 Superb news and long overdue. All this talk of location is a pile of pish,it will be right next to the AWPR dual carriageway plus Aberdeen is expanding all the time,the stadium in 10 yrs time will not be on the western edge of the city anymore. I'm sure better bus links will be set up in due time [emoji4] Back on topic, it will be interesting to see what they do for fans in the Dyce / Bucksburn area as at the moment getting to Westhill / Kingswells by public transport is a pain in the arse despite being just over the hill. By the time you get the get the bus into town and then get another one via Lang Stracht, you may as well have walked over the hill for over an hour. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdTheDuck Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 8 minutes ago, Hedgecutter said: At risk of kicking off a 'what makes it bigger - attendances or fans' argument, those figures are for supporters, ie those that actually turn up for the games. Fan numbers on the other hand are a bit more difficult to quantify, but as somebody highlighted earlier, Aberdeen is a rather popular club across the whole of the North East area where well over half a million people reside (former Grampian region anyway) with only one major team in the area. The Moray towns for example have numerous Dons fans, but only a minority travel those 60 odd miles (hour and half drive) to the home games for obvious reasons. Hearts essentially rely on the Lothians and more recently parts of Fife, but this is a catchment half an hour drive from Glasgow that contains two big team in addition to smaller full time outfits, and that's including the numerous West Lothian orange lodge hellholes. They'll inevitably have fewer background fans. Essentially, it's far more convenient for Hearts 'fans' in their catchment to travel to Tynecastle than it is for the Aberdeen counterparts to reach Pittodrie (not just due to distance but also regional infrastructure etc), hence it would be no surprise if a smaller team like Hearts had marginally higher attendances over the years. You're quite right, I should have said fans who attend games. For whatever reason Aberdeen have a huge number of fans who attend games fairly irregularly, Maybe Fatshaft has a point, maybe the move to the middle of nowhere will encourage more of the Shire and even Moray fans to go along in enough numbers to compensate and even increase for city dwellers who decide 45 minute bus rides ain't worth it. There are, of course, significant numbers of glory hunting twats around the NE as well, but maybe our isolation works in AFC's favour compared to the East central belt. Certainly seems like Aberdeen fans outnumber the OF(ex)GH by miles here 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdTheDuck Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 5 minutes ago, Hedgecutter said: Back on topic, it will be interesting to see what they do for fans in the Dyce / Bucksburn area as at the moment getting to Westhill / Kingswells by public transport is a pain in the arse despite being just over the hill. By the time you get the get the bus into town and then get another one via Lang Stracht, you may as well have walked over the hill for over an hour. The run to the AWPR from both will be a few minutes. Surely there'll be service buses direct to Westhill once it opens or shuttle buses, maybe even the local pubs will run buses. If not I have an idea for a small PT business... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgecutter Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 The run to the AWPR from both will be a few minutes. Surely there'll be service buses direct to Westhill once it opens or shuttle buses, maybe even the local pubs will run buses.If not I have an idea for a small PT business... Bear in mind it only took a few decades to get Aberdeen airport on a bus route (think it took until three years ago for that*). Thing is, it wouldn't surprise me at all if they deem Bucksburn to Westhill to be not worth the extra service. No bus from Ellon / Peterhead / Inverurie is going to bypass Aberdeen to go along that section of the AWPR, so linking the two areas directly would probably require an AFC shuttle bus. Private bus leaving the 4 Mile Inn @ 14:15 could do a tidy wee trade. [emoji6] *iirc, that was simply to satisfy criteria in order to market it as an International Airport. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lubo_blaha Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 The run to the AWPR from both will be a few minutes. Surely there'll be service buses direct to Westhill once it opens or shuttle buses, maybe even the local pubs will run buses. If not I have an idea for a small PT business... Worth mentioning that there will be a bus service from Dyce park and ride. How they get there is another matter! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdTheDuck Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 36 minutes ago, lubo_blaha said: Worth mentioning that there will be a bus service from Dyce park and ride. How they get there is another matter! Ahh I should have known that. But yeah, the Dyce P&R is way out of the way off the A96 and presumably the new Airport Road. Certainly not walkable from Dyce. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunty Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 5 hours ago, Darren said: The 1980s were a great time for the Dandies but they weren't dominant. Celtic won more league titles. Aye, only because your mob bottled it in 86. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bob Mahelp Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 The essentials ; -all enclosed stadium (no compromising on this) -one that is designed to capture noise and is atmosphere creating -away fans in a corner. Not behind the goals -at least one....substantial....bar/beerhall. For home fans only. F*ck away fans, they can stop at Stonehaven. Preferred : -a standing area for home fans If the club get the basics right and remember this is a football stadium for football fans, then they can set the foundations for the future. If however, they concentrate their energies on 'encouraging a family atmosphere' and fill the place with a McDonalds, face painters and bouncy castles then the project is doomed to failure. Ultimately though, the stadium will stand or fall on the success of the team. Have a good side, and people will come....it's as easy as that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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