haufdaft Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 To be honest, watching the players reaction on the park at the time I think something definitely happened. Hence I'm minded to believe Love is guilty.I think people trying to differentiate by saying racist abuse is worse than abuse directed at someone with a disability are ridiculous. Both are equally unacceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peternapper Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 1 hour ago, theoriginalhedge said: And Dick Campbell gets 7 games for telling a ref how shite he is ???? Aye fair right enough. This was a chance for the authorities to hammer home a message that racism should not be tolerated and they have failed big time. Makes a mockery of those show racism the red card displays IMO. Was trying to remember our man Jim McInallys record he had a 11 match touchline ban while at the Shire but think his best one was a 4 game ban for asking a ref to take his complimentary meal after the game away from the area where the players were being fed. Basically the ref had been absolutely dire & Jim was concerned that something out of place might have been said. Can imagine McKendrick putting down his fork & knife & getting the yellow/red cards out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Carrigan Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 44 minutes ago, Brazilianlex said: Spot on O Hara got 8 games about shiels eye because it was championship clubs involved. The SFA don’t give a toss about the lower leagues and issues like this are just a nuisance to them. i don’t expect Clyde to take any action. When the court hearing found the rapists guilty, we sacked David Robertson but Clyde signed his co accused Goodwillie. Fans of Clubs will generally support their signings and defend their players action, no matter how disgusting. so if I go to Clyde on Sat and shout abuse at Love and Goodwillie, I will probably be thrown out by stewards. What a fucked up country we live in. Whaaat a fucking silly statement this is. Please refer to the fact that there is no evidence to back up the claims. With O'Hara he was seen on camera pointing at his eye at least five times. Dick Campbell was pictured marching right onto the park and squaring up to Roncone. The SFA not giving a f**k would not have dragged the hearing into a third day. If it was a John Terry situation and he was caught on camera then absolutely ban him and sack him, but with just verbal accusations you can only take so much action and a five game ban (plus the fact that he is now tagged as a racist) is probably about right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Do the folk screaming "throw the book at him" here actually have any idea as to what's supposedly gone on (other than the newspaper article which had him pretty much convicted before the case was even heard)? Do you? I’m really not sure why Rabin Omar would go to the bother of concocting this whole story up, surely a very sinister way of looking at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brazilianlex Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 48 minutes ago, Brian Carrigan said: Whaaat a fucking silly statement this is. Please refer to the fact that there is no evidence to back up the claims. With O'Hara he was seen on camera pointing at his eye at least five times. Dick Campbell was pictured marching right onto the park and squaring up to Roncone. The SFA not giving a f**k would not have dragged the hearing into a third day. If it was a John Terry situation and he was caught on camera then absolutely ban him and sack him, but with just verbal accusations you can only take so much action and a five game ban (plus the fact that he is now tagged as a racist) is probably about right. How do you know there is no evidence. ? If that’s true then Love has a very good case to sue the SFA for libel, loss of earnings etc. Do you think he will ? im afraid you are proving my point, fans back their players no matter what they do and it’s a sad reflection on Scotland in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 2 hours ago, theoriginalhedge said: By all accounts this was a case based on a referees report which highlighted racial abuse from Love. If there was very little evidence as you put it , he wouldn't or couldn't have been found guilty . He was and to be honest the book should have been thrown at him .............. It wasn't . The referees report said he heard nothing and nothing was reported to him. 1 hour ago, 1320Lichtie said: Do you? I’m really not sure why Rabin Omar would go to the bother of concocting this whole story up, surely a very sinister way of looking at it. From what I've been told about how it's all happened, it doesn't add up. Surely if someone says that to you on the pitch you say to the ref immediately? Pretty sure players are advised to do that so that the referee can put it in his report. Video evidence isn't conclusive and the referees report says nothing. The complaint was made after the game and they have a scuffle in the car park (which I'm told Omar may be pulled up for). I just don't think it looks clear cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 From what I've been told about how it's all happened, it doesn't add up. Surely if someone says that to you on the pitch you say to the ref immediately? Pretty sure players are advised to do that so that the referee can put it in his report. Video evidence isn't conclusive and the referees report says nothing. The complaint was made after the game and they have a scuffle in the car park (which I'm told Omar may be pulled up for). I just don't think it looks clear cut. First of all, as a guy, probably like yourself, the last thing you want to do is go and grass to the ref about something. Nobody likes grassing it’s not an easy thing to do. Maybe calming down after the incident made him realise that was the correct thing to do. Making something like that up is evil. Also what incident is the Clyde fan above referring to then when he said that he thought something bad had been said as soon as they’d seen the reaction? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clyde4ever Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Some ridiculous comments on here. The fact that he was only banned for 5 games obviously means there were other factors of which we are not aware. I've heard that the whole incident, allegedly, was related to Love, his ex-girlfriend, Omar, his current girlfriend, comments made on the park and in the tunnel, and an altercation in the car park after the match. (There was only one female involved, just to make it clear). If Love made racist comments - he shouldn't have, and has correctly been punished. Omar, however, may not be the innocent that some would have us believe - and may well have played a significant part in the whole sorry incident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde01 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 5 game ban. He got off lightly. Sounds like there wasn’t much evidence so 5 games seems like a token ban. Designed to show the SFA took action but not as harsh as other cases where actual evidence was presented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawfield shed boy Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Years ago this would have been sorted out man to man. Omar playing the racist card was always going to work in his favour if true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haufdaft Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Omar playing the racist card was always going to work in his favour if true As it should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Years ago this would have been sorted out man to man. Omar playing the racist card was always going to work in his favour if true Sorted out man to man. [emoji1]And playing the racist card? Seriously? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Ah shawfield shed boy. Always good to hear his/her input on these sort of matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawfield shed boy Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Sorted out man to man. [emoji1] And playing the racist card? Seriously? Theyve had a fall out. Hes probably bluttered something in the heated moment he regrets (If he said it) He shouldn't have but only works one way, Always has, Always will & Annan boy knew what he was doing to get him back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Theyve had a fall out. Hes probably bluttered something in the heated moment he regrets (If he said it) He shouldn't have but only works one way, Always has, Always will & Annan boy knew what he was doing to get him back Honestly don’t even get what you’re meaning.Obviously it only works one way? Only one person was racially abused here what other way is it going to work? Knew what he was doing to get him back? By doing what? Reporting the abuse?Very odd way of looking at it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawfield shed boy Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Have any of us said something in the heat of the moment we regret, Of course. By saying something racist is wrong like any wrong...Annan lad knew by reporting it he was always going to get the full support,Media,Online and their dug cause the victim of the racial comments is always the innocent one,Its the way its always worked cause of walters,Barnes and so on...Point im making is, Was love a victim of some abuse(No doubt likely) or does that not count...Moving on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Have any of us said something in the heat of the moment we regret, Of course. By saying something racist is wrong like any wrong... Annan lad knew by reporting it he was always going to get the full support,Media,Online and their dug cause the victim of the racial comments is always the innocent one,Its the way its always worked cause of walters,Barnes and so on... Point im making is, Was love a victim of some abuse(No doubt likely) or does that not count... Moving on You’re just havering now If Love had called him a fucking p***k nobody would’ve batted an eyelid or cared Nobody is playing any card here and when someone is the victim of racial abuse he should have the support of everybody ‘and their dug’ Sure the vast majority of the Clyde support agree, the ones who don’t and come away with similar stuff to yourself would be better keeping their mouths shut as it doesn’t come off well at all and just digs the hole deeper I’m not saying everyone has to be in full agreement here, Moonster isn’t so sure but he’s being sensible about it You going on about Omar playing racist cards and trying to drop Love into it, comparing abuse said in the heat of the moment to racial abuse and going on about things like this being sorted out man to man in the past really isn’t coming off very well at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawfield shed boy Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Your going on as if you know what was said Litchie, How ever big or small.... Nah you dont and neither do I, Im not fully defending him but neither hanging him out to dry like plenty love to do cause they read it online or their 40p rag. Nite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeSAFC Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Years ago this would have been sorted out man to man. Omar playing the racist card was always going to work in his favour if true My fucking god...You really are a complete moron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 10 hours ago, 1320Lichtie said: First of all, as a guy, probably like yourself, the last thing you want to do is go and grass to the ref about something. Nobody likes grassing it’s not an easy thing to do. Maybe calming down after the incident made him realise that was the correct thing to do. Making something like that up is evil. Also what incident is the Clyde fan above referring to then when he said that he thought something bad had been said as soon as they’d seen the reaction? I don't know, in this day and age people are encouraged to speak up about it, I don't know why you would wait until after the game when telling the ref would surely make it easier to convict someone of it. I don't know what incident he's referring to but from what I'm told the one in which Love is supposed to have said it the referee is as close to the incident as Moxon, who backs up Omar's story. How does he or any other player not hear it if it's as blatant as made out. Stories seemed to change too, Love was told the incident was supposedly in the 25th minute, they checked footage and the two players are nowhere near each other, the minute of the incident then changed to well into the second half. If someone calls you that I'm sure you remember what half it happened in at the very least. As I've said every post, Love may well have said something but I don't think it adds up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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