Peppino Impastato Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 46 minutes ago, Monkey Tennis said: Deeply ingrained football culture alongside large population = sustained success, for pretty much everyone except England. And turkey, and Thailand and Japan and poland and Nigeria. Try again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppino Impastato Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 31 minutes ago, Tulloch Gorum said: I look forward to the day when Scottish society grows up to the extent that people stop obsessing over England. Move past it. They're just another country, they're not that interesting. As for the kit, if it's the one posted a couple of pages back, I'd be fine with that. Nothing spectacular, but better than our last couple. Not entirely convinced by what appear to be blue shorts, though. I don't think anyone except perhaps Henry is obsessed by England. But the fact remains we are governed by England, that's quite important therefore they're a much bigger factor for us than almost any other country is for any other country. Denial of that is just denial of reality. We're an English colony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 1 minute ago, Peppino Impastato said: And turkey, and Thailand and Japan and poland and Nigeria. Try again. None of whom have a football culture to rival that of England. And Poland has achieved as much as England anyway, despite being less populous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppino Impastato Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 Just now, Monkey Tennis said: None of whom have a football culture to rival that of England. And Poland has achieved as much as England anyway, despite being less populous. Oh so it's football culture now too. And if Poland has achieved as much (populations are actually virtually identical) perhaps that's about the right level of achievement for England then. Way to undermine your own argument champ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 Just now, Peppino Impastato said: I don't think anyone except perhaps Henry is obsessed by England. But the fact remains we are governed by England, that's quite important therefore they're a much bigger factor for us than almost any other country is for any other country. Denial of that is just denial of reality. We're an English colony. You see this is where you reveal where you're coming from. You wish to denigrate England in this discussion by pointing to a perceived arrogance. I've no particular Interest in commenting on that. Instead, I'm looking at evidence and commenting on how little the country has achieved in football. That's all. You let an agenda blind you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kebab Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 Although I suppose yellow would be nice too!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppino Impastato Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 1 minute ago, Monkey Tennis said: You see this is where you reveal where you're coming from. You wish to denigrate England in this discussion by pointing to a perceived arrogance. I've no particular Interest in commenting on that. Instead, I'm looking at evidence and commenting on how little the country has achieved in football. That's all. You let an agenda blind you. But you refuse to look at evidence that's the whole problem. You invent reasons to support your preconceptions and just dismiss and contort each time they're shown to be shite. I don't wish to denigrate anything you made a statement that England are the biggest underachievers in world football which is patently not true. I have asked you to prove your assertion you have failed to even attempt to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 4 minutes ago, Peppino Impastato said: Oh so it's football culture now too. And if Poland has achieved as much (populations are actually virtually identical) perhaps that's about the right level of achievement for England then. Way to undermine your own argument champ. What do you mean "now"? That's what I've been saying all along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 18 minutes ago, Peppino Impastato said: But you refuse to look at evidence that's the whole problem. You invent reasons to support your preconceptions and just dismiss and contort each time they're shown to be shite. I don't wish to denigrate anything you made a statement that England are the biggest underachievers in world football which is patently not true. I have asked you to prove your assertion you have failed to even attempt to do so. It is patently true because other countries similar to England in the key respects that have been identified, do much better. The fact that some countries with fewer such advantages do well, doesn't dent the fact that England, as a footballing nation, is a spectacular underachiever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 23 minutes ago, Peppino Impastato said: And if Poland has achieved as much (populations are actually virtually identical) perhaps that's about the right level of achievement for England then. Actually, you're spot on about the populations being virtually identical. As long as we can consider 38,000,000 to be virtually identical to 55,000,000 of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eez-eh Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 3 hours ago, Monkey Tennis said: I'm amazed that you're struggling with this. I'm not - he’s a fucking simpleton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppino Impastato Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 28 minutes ago, Monkey Tennis said: What do you mean "now"? That's what I've been saying all along. Actually that's the first time you used the word culture champ, which is entirely unmeasurable claptrap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppino Impastato Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 23 minutes ago, Monkey Tennis said: It is patently true because other countries similar to England in the key respects that have been identified, do much better. The fact that some countries with fewer such advantages do well, doesn't dent the fact that England, as a footballing nation, is a spectacular underachiever. You're assuming those are the reasons they do well, without offering any kind of supporting argument. You literally have presented nothing whatsoever to support your original assertion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 6 minutes ago, Peppino Impastato said: Actually that's the first time you used the word culture champ, which is entirely unmeasurable claptrap. That's quite simply untrue as you'll be able to see by looking back. I explicitly use the word " culture" in four posts prior to the one that troubles you. You just say things, don't you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppino Impastato Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, Monkey Tennis said: That's quite simply untrue as you'll be able to see by looking back. I explicitly use the word " culture" in four posts prior to the one that troubles you. You just say things, don't you. It's still utter shite no matter how many times you've said it. Give it up champ we're getting old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kebab Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 As long as it's not all pink, cos that was shite!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, Peppino Impastato said: It's still utter shite no matter how many times you've said it. Give it up champ we're getting old. I know. I do sympathise with anyone popping in for a look at a new Scotland away kit. Obviously I'm right though, which is why you've been reduced to posting untrue nonsense about Poland's population, football in Turkey and even my own posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordopolis Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 It's Saturday afternoon you two. Away out and get your hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophe Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 Imagine @an86 coming back on here to see 6-pages of thrilling debate about a new away kit awaiting him after his original post....and then sifting through this shite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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