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15 minutes ago, BawWatchin said:

How do you know he didn't and they didn't just cut it out of the broadcast? They have previous for doing this. Think Nick Robinsons interview with Alex Salmond.

I don't but Hendry never blinked when the Tory was spouting it never mind interject.

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14 hours ago, Warren Mears said:

Yet more deliberate idiocy from welshbairn about the BBC. Does the c**t work for them? That's the only excuse for such lowlife behaviour.

A politician wants his resignation to have a big impact. A news editor wants a big story for his show. Do you think C4 News or any other news programme wouldn't have done exactly the same? And that the BBC wouldn't have done exactly the same if it had been a Tory minister resigning? And no, I don't work for them, it's just that 90% of the BBC bias stories on this thread are provable tosh.

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1 minute ago, MixuFixit said:


 

 


A testable thing. Lots of Tory ministers have resigned. Have any of them been documented to have been encouraged to do so, and then afforded the same slot?
 

 

How would you find out if ITN had beaten the BBC to the punch? And I still don't understand what's wrong or remotely unusual about trying to break a major news story on a fucking news programme.

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58 minutes ago, BawWatchin said:

welshbairn desperately trying to defend the BBC here. Chronic. 😂

Just pointing out that in this example they behaved in exactly the same way that any other UK news organization would have done.

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18 minutes ago, MixuFixit said:


If your starting point is that it is perfectly OK for a broadcaster of any type to engineer news rather than report and analyse it, then we're never going to understand each other.

If the BBC had persuaded the Minister to resign, that would be engineering news. Getting him to announce it on their show isn't, just standard practice in a competitive business. 

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1 hour ago, welshbairn said:

If the BBC had persuaded the Minister to resign, that would be engineering news. Getting him to announce it on their show isn't, just standard practice in a competitive business. 

Had a Minister approached a news outlet with the story of their resignation, they could rightly claim an exclusive. When a broadcaster sees resignation on air as a good thing they are straight in to entertainment value.

News gatherers put a story together. The editor decides if it's newsworthy. A Minister resigning is obviously newsworthy. If it flips into agenda setting then we are in dangerous territory. But then we all know the BBC does this.

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1 hour ago, The Skelpit Lug said:

Had a Minister approached a news outlet with the story of their resignation, they could rightly claim an exclusive. When a broadcaster sees resignation on air as a good thing they are straight in to entertainment value.

News gatherers put a story together. The editor decides if it's newsworthy. A Minister resigning is obviously newsworthy. If it flips into agenda setting then we are in dangerous territory. But then we all know the BBC does this.

Allan Little recently confirmed that this is what they did in 2014.

I heard nothing by the way of contradiction.

 

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  • 2 weeks later...

Not bias exactly, but the Sky News, Guardian and Independent websites all featuring Trump latest racist rally very prominently.  Sky and Guardian have it as the lead story.

Nothing on the BBC main news page at the point of posting.

 

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2 hours ago, Granny Danger said:

Not bias exactly, but the Sky News, Guardian and Independent websites all featuring Trump latest racist rally very prominently.  Sky and Guardian have it as the lead story.

Nothing on the BBC main news page at the point of posting.

 

Weird that. They do mention it in this piece but not as the headline. The impeachment thing was never going to pass so the racist rally had to be the main story.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-49027965

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1 hour ago, welshbairn said:

Weird that. They do mention it in this piece but not as the headline. The impeachment thing was never going to pass so the racist rally had to be the main story.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-49027965

Maybe it's just me, but the BBC seems to be slower than others when it comes to reporting the excesses of Trump utterances.

Almost like there is internal corporate agonizing about causing problems for the ( Westminster ) government. 

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Maybe it's just me, but the BBC seems to be slower than others when it comes to reporting the excesses of Trump utterances.
Almost like there is internal corporate agonizing about causing problems for the ( Westminster ) government. 


Or they’ve decided it isn’t worth going nuts over yet another Trump lie/exaggeration/plea to the Rust Belt.

Trump’s “go home” speech would have been, in any other time and place, a sackable offence, and certainly an impeachable one had the GOP not sold its soul for a handful of rooms in a Florida golf resort.

The complete over-reaction to previous statements he has made - the lungs/heart one for example - has allowed things like this to sail on through. The BBC is far from alone in giving too much coverage to Trump on certain matters, and not enough on others.
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Today, even a good, challenging interview (which this wasn't) will be selectively cut and edited by Bannon's team so that his fans get to see a version where the BBC is "biased", and he "wins". https://t.co/UYXbkDfCti— John Burn-Murdoch (@jburnmurdoch) July 31, 2019


The amount of right wing clips kicking about where journalist/ left wing audience member are ‘owned’ or ‘destroyed’ is ridiculous. Theses guys know exactly what point they want to put across and and will make sure they get it in to any media they can get.

The more time you give them the more exposure their message gets.

The idea that they’ll just trip over themselves and we’ll all just laugh and they’ll quietly disappear has been proven repeatedly to be absolute shite yet it’s how the certain editors justify themselves.
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Did anyone watch coverage of Johnson's trip to Bute house on Monday on different news shows during the course of the evening?

My recollection of the headlines goes something like

  • Main BBC News channel "Boris booed"
  • Sky News "Boris booed"
  • The Nine (BBC Scotland Channel) - "Boris booed"
  • Reporting Scotland (Flagship BBC1 primetime regional news) "Prime Minister Johnson was met with both cheers and boos as he visited Bute House"

One of these programmes appears to have a different agenda from the rest. I wonder why?

 

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Did anyone watch coverage of Johnson's trip to Bute house on Monday on different news shows during the course of the evening?

My recollection of the headlines goes something like

  • Main BBC News channel "Boris booed"
  • Sky News "Boris booed"
  • The Nine (BBC Scotland Channel) - "Boris booed"
  • Reporting Scotland (Flagship BBC1 primetime regional news) "Prime Minister Johnson was met with both cheers and boos as he visited Bute House"
One of these programmes appears to have a different agenda from the rest. I wonder why?

 

 

The one you are presumably trying to discredit is actually the one that is most accurate and reporting the truth. There were plenty people there cheering and clapping too as the Prime Minister arrived.

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