bennett Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 14 minutes ago, happyaccie said: Really wish c**** would read my posts properly, I never said I had gleaned from his interviews he wouldn't go , to repeat what I said, from the interviews I have heard Clarke give it appears as though he has no overriding desire to leave Rugby Park , your embellishment of my post to suit your own argument is beyond belief. Another happy post from happyaccie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyaccie Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 25 minutes ago, Peppino Impastato said: Big deal Kenny dalglish was a massive rangers fan and signed for Celtic. Are his brothers going to triple or quadruple his wages? These people are professionals trying to reach the top in their industry, there's just no reason to stay. Big deal Derek McInnes is a biuenose to the core, but he rejected going to Ibrox a few months ago, where his salary and budget would have been enhanced substantially, not everyone regards money as the only consideration, Kilmarnock fans are well aware Steve Clarke will move on at some point as he will look to progress, but your opinion that money will play a part has been dismantled by the fact that McInnes turned down sevco. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 Big deal Derek McInnes is a biuenose to the core, but he rejected going to Ibrox a few months ago, where his salary and budget would have been enhanced substantially, not everyone regards money as the only consideration, Kilmarnock fans are well aware Steve Clarke will move on at some point as he will look to progress, but your opinion that money will play a part has been dismantled by the fact that McInnes turned down sevco. For once I agree with you.Obviously a huge pay increase is tempting for anyone but if you’re bright enough to see the big picture it isn’t all that.After all what’s worth more, smaller salary but the security that your job is virtually safe or huge pay increase but you could potentially be unemployed within 6 months if things don’t go well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theauldyin Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 33 minutes ago, Peppino Impastato said: Big deal Kenny dalglish was a massive rangers fan and signed for Celtic. Are his brothers going to triple or quadruple his wages? These people are professionals trying to reach the top in their industry, there's just no reason to stay. stick to your own div forum ffs, come back when you get promoted, so see you in a couple of years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 3 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said: For once I agree with you. Obviously a huge pay increase is tempting for anyone but if you’re bright enough to see the big picture it isn’t all that. After all what’s worth more, smaller salary but the security that your job is virtually safe or huge pay increase but you could potentially be unemployed within 6 months if things don’t go well you don't beat them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyaccie Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 1 minute ago, Dons_1988 said: For once I agree with you. Obviously a huge pay increase is tempting for anyone but if you’re bright enough to see the big picture it isn’t all that. After all what’s worth more, smaller salary but the security that your job is virtually safe or huge pay increase but you could potentially be unemployed within 6 months if things don’t go well. The McInnes saga was recent enough to support my opinion, but the situation with Clarke is quite removed from the one McInnes had, Steve Clarke was given an opportunity to manage his boyhood team and as he was out of work took up that offer, but he still sees his long term future down south , many killie fans have already expressed he will in all likelihood return south, things may change however and if Clarke were to move his family back north I think most killie fans would be more hopeful to retain Clarke's services. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grangemouth Bairn Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 10 minutes ago, happyaccie said: Big deal Derek McInnes is a biuenose to the core, but he rejected going to Ibrox a few months ago, where his salary and budget would have been enhanced substantially, not everyone regards money as the only consideration, Kilmarnock fans are well aware Steve Clarke will move on at some point as he will look to progress, but your opinion that money will play a part has been dismantled by the fact that McInnes turned down sevco. I don't think you can compare Clarke with McInnes. McInnes has managed the team with the 3rd biggest budget to a consistent top 3 finish. He had a great opportunity to win league in one of Celtics poor season and unfortunatly never took it. He also moved to Bristol City before and had a really poor time and since then has turned down opportunities to challenge himself at arguably bigger clubs with bigger expectations I.e. Sunderland and Sevco. Clarke is managing Killie who have probably a budget in the bottom 1/4 of the teams in the league. So far his record there is fantastic and he has Killie improving all the time. He has proven, unlike McIness that he can compete at a higher level. He also comes across as far more ambitious than McIness. I think he will ultimately move on but think his ambition will take him to a better place than Sevco. And also well done Killie. Brilliant to see them doing so well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppino Impastato Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 36 minutes ago, happyaccie said: Really wish c**** would read my posts properly, I never said I had gleaned from his interviews he wouldn't go , to repeat what I said, from the interviews I have heard Clarke give it appears as though he has no overriding desire to leave Rugby Park , your embellishment of my post to suit your own argument is beyond belief. Well you hardly would would you, he's not exactly going to state that in a post match interview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppino Impastato Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 20 minutes ago, happyaccie said: Big deal Derek McInnes is a biuenose to the core, but he rejected going to Ibrox a few months ago, where his salary and budget would have been enhanced substantially, not everyone regards money as the only consideration, Kilmarnock fans are well aware Steve Clarke will move on at some point as he will look to progress, but your opinion that money will play a part has been dismantled by the fact that McInnes turned down sevco. No as sevco are a financial basket case. He was willing to speak to them then turned them down after he heard what they can offer. Would you leave your job for four times your salary? So would Clarke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyaccie Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 1 minute ago, Grangemouth Bairn said: I don't think you can compare Clarke with McInnes. McInnes has managed the team with the 3rd biggest budget to a consistent top 3 finish. He had a great opportunity to win league in one of Celtics poor season and unfortunatly never took it. He also moved to Bristol City before and had a really poor time and since then has turned down opportunities to challenge himself at arguably bigger clubs with bigger expectations I.e. Sunderland and Sevco. Clarke is managing Killie who have probably a budget in the bottom 1/4 of the teams in the league. So far his record there is fantastic and he has Killie improving all the time. He has proven, unlike McIness that he can compete at a higher level. He also comes across as far more ambitious than McIness. I think he will ultimately move on but think his ambition will take him to a better place than Sevco. And also well done Killie. Brilliant to see them doing so well. The direct comparison was unintentional, the point I was trying to make was that McInnes showed that a fatter pay packet is not the only consideration when managers have a decision to make , which was the point i was making to the poster who said Clarke would jump ship for the first offer of a wage increase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppino Impastato Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 1 minute ago, happyaccie said: The direct comparison was unintentional, the point I was trying to make was that McInnes showed that a fatter pay packet is not the only consideration when managers have a decision to make , which was the point i was making to the poster who said Clarke would jump ship for the first offer of a wage increase. I didn't say just that, also bigger budget more potential etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grangemouth Bairn Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 Just now, happyaccie said: The direct comparison was unintentional, the point I was trying to make was that McInnes showed that a fatter pay packet is not the only consideration when managers have a decision to make , which was the point i was making to the poster who said Clarke would jump ship for the first offer of a wage increase. McIness will be on a good wage at Aberdeen and has shown to have little ambition to move on. I think the big difference is that McIness is happy to have the limited pressure of being a guy where runner up is a success. Clarke wants to be a winner. A big difference in their mentality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyaccie Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 1 minute ago, Peppino Impastato said: No as sevco are a financial basket case. He was willing to speak to them then turned them down after he heard what they can offer. Would you leave your job for four times your salary? So would Clarke. McInnes didn't, but once again to suit your argument you state Sevco are a financial basket case, do you think any manager would worry about that as long as their salary was enhanced as you claim ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyaccie Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 1 minute ago, Grangemouth Bairn said: McIness will be on a good wage at Aberdeen and has shown to have little ambition to move on. I think the big difference is that McIness is happy to have the limited pressure of being a guy where runner up is a success. Clarke wants to be a winner. A big difference in their mentality. Yes totally agree GB, but the poster I am replying to is of the opinion a manager like Clarke will jump at the first opportunity as long as his salary is enhanced sufficiently, the McInnes situation has proven that not all managers have finance at the forefront of their minds whilst mulling over a move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 McIness will be on a good wage at Aberdeen and has shown to have little ambition to move on. I think the big difference is that McIness is happy to have the limited pressure of being a guy where runner up is a success. Clarke wants to be a winner. A big difference in their mentality. Who knew a Falkirk fan would be an expert in the psychology of both the Kilmarnock and Aberdeen managers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 It's no surprise that Falkirk think that everyone associated with Killie has a winning psychology, given what we've done to them in every single big game we've faced them in the last 25 years or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppino Impastato Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 19 minutes ago, Grangemouth Bairn said: McIness will be on a good wage at Aberdeen and has shown to have little ambition to move on. I think the big difference is that McIness is happy to have the limited pressure of being a guy where runner up is a success. Clarke wants to be a winner. A big difference in their mentality. Nah that's pish, McInnes has had two offers been willing to leave both times but turned both down as both clubs are a shambles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grangemouth Bairn Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 18 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said: Who knew a Falkirk fan would be an expert in the psychology of both the Kilmarnock and Aberdeen managers I'm hardly an expert. My opinion is based on evidence that's clear to all of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 I'm hardly an expert. My opinion is based on evidence that's clear to all of us. You have evidence of the mentality of two managers? Pray tell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estragon Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 Peppino vs HA, to recap, is two non-Killie fans arguing with one another about the Kilmarnock manager....as if to reinforce how fucking #boxoffice we are now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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