GuyIncognito Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 Dodds is an absolute fud and a fraud as a manager. Went 3 months without a win for Inverness but still finished 3rd because of how bad the league was then shitfested his way to the playoff final. Only got to a cup final because Queen’s Park fucked up with player registration. wouldn’t touch him with a bargepole 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuyIncognito Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, diegomarahenry said: A youth team of a team in the third tier in England is higher than the Scottish Premier league? Yes. I would say being on the coaching staff and serving as interim manager of a English Championship club with 30000+ attendances is a higher level than Ross County and Inverness Edited November 11, 2023 by GuyIncognito 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D'Jaffo Posted November 11, 2023 Author Share Posted November 11, 2023 Just now, diegomarahenry said: The third tier in England is higher than the Scottish Premier league? Sheffield Wed were in the Championship when Bullen was assistant manager between 2015-2020. He was never actually part of the set up when they were in League One. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itzdrk Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 No Bullen No McCall No Dodds 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diegomarahenry Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 4 minutes ago, GuyIncognito said: Yes. I would say being on the coaching staff and serving as interim manager of a English Championship club with 30000+ attendances is a higher level than Ross County and Inverness And Dundee, and Dundee United 5 minutes ago, GuyIncognito said: Dodds is an absolute fud and a fraud as a manager. Went 3 months without a win for Inverness but still finished 3rd because of how bad the league was then shitfested his way to the playoff final. Only got to a cup final because Queen’s Park fucked up with player registration. wouldn’t touch him with a bargepole He got past a Falkirk team we failed against, Qualified for the play-offs twice in a row, one where he got to the final. Seasons are 36 games, not one game or 3 months. Ayr deserved a play-off place last year because they won the points to be there over the season, not just because McKenzie scored with 2min to go. Much the same as they would deserve f**k all if he hadn't scored. "He was successful but he was shite at doing it" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diegomarahenry Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 7 minutes ago, itzdrk said: No Bullen No McCall No Dodds Who then? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D'Jaffo Posted November 11, 2023 Author Share Posted November 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, diegomarahenry said: And Dundee, and Dundee United Still a lower level than where Bullen has coached at. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coollestersmoothe Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 (edited) This might be the cans talking, but I’d take Yogi. Could be the totally batshit left field appointment that’ll get us out the funk we’re in. Kinda akin to the effect Duncan Ferguson is having now. Although I don’t know whether I think thats because I reckon he’d be good or whether it just reflects the dearth of decent managers out there who would see Ayr as a worthwhile venture. Edited November 11, 2023 by Coollestersmoothe 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wuffster Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 5 minutes ago, diegomarahenry said: Who then? Jesus wept. Not this old saw. You get rid of the current Head Coach and then pick* one from the many applicants. * Half-time draw tombola may be used. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richey Edwards Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 Dodds hates us, so absolutely no chance our next manager will be him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D'Jaffo Posted November 11, 2023 Author Share Posted November 11, 2023 The last three jobs Yogi took were against relegation threatened sides. He has a success ratio of 1/3. I don’t think we’re in panic mode yet in terms of going down as this league is so up and down but you’re only ever 2-3 games away from panic stations. Ultimately I don’t think a new manager is something we’ll have to consider for a while yet. He won’t be sacked and seems incapable of admitting/realising he’s got it wrong so won’t walk. I reckon it’ll take us being in the bottom two and a four or five point gap opening up before the pressure gets too much for Smith. If (big if) he goes then I wouldn’t be jumping into a long term appointment at this stage. Would rather go down the interim until end of season route and reassess there. Far too teams appoint a new manager and they get off to a good start but make an arse of the summer window. On the flip side, a lot of guys are very good with their own side but they need time to get their own players in and are relatively useless when given someone else’s team. Very rarely can clubs at our level get someone who is good at both. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComradeDiego Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 6 minutes ago, Coollestersmoothe said: This might be the cans talking, but I’d take Yogi. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diegomarahenry Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 11 minutes ago, D'Jaffo said: Still a lower level than where Bullen has coached at. He joined their coaching staff in 2001, He was assistant for two years. In 11 seasons, they were in league one for two of them and finished in the bottom half in seven. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diegomarahenry Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 13 minutes ago, Coollestersmoothe said: This might be the cans talking, but I’d take Yogi. Where would you take him? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coollestersmoothe Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, diegomarahenry said: Where would you take him? That’s hilarious, man. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D'Jaffo Posted November 11, 2023 Author Share Posted November 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, diegomarahenry said: He joined their coaching staff in 2001, He was assistant for two years. In 11 seasons, they were in league one for two of them and finished in the bottom half in seven. He was a youth coach until 2015. For five years he was the assistant manager. In the English Championship. A higher level than where Dodds coached. It’s all a moot point as these things are ultimately irrelevant to what makes a good manager but seeing as you seem so intent on trying to make Billy Dodds out to be a better manager than Lee Bullen I thought I’d point out the facts for you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peil Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 #madrimadness in full swing tonight Love to see it 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott-ish Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 Surely folk talking about Dodds and Yogi is a reflection on just shite Bullen is and how utterly screwed we appear to be. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coollestersmoothe Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 (edited) Bullens going nowhere. As much as I’d like it to be otherwise. And if he were to go there’s really nobody out there who whets the appetite that I can think of. Even if there was would they look at Ayr as a prospect for advancing their career? Beyond the fanbase most other people see ayr as a club eternally in the doldrums with no imminent likelihood of success. I think Bullen thinks this too. In his mind we’re lucky to have him cos who the f**k else would come here. Edited November 11, 2023 by Coollestersmoothe 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diegomarahenry Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 4 minutes ago, D'Jaffo said: He was a youth coach until 2015. For five years he was the assistant manager. In the English Championship. A higher level than where Dodds coached. It’s all a moot point as these things are ultimately irrelevant to what makes a good manager but seeing as you seem so intent on trying to make Billy Dodds out to be a better manager than Lee Bullen I thought I’d point out the facts for you. He was manager under one manager, he was only assistant for two years until Steve Bruce came in. In that time, they were mostly filler in the Championship. Dodds coached in the Premier league, having played at the top level in Scotland for 18 years and capped 26 times for Scotland. He has managed at our level for two full seasons, finishing in the top 4 twice, getting to the play-off final once and a Scottish cup final. These are also facts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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