welshbairn Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 Think I could just about handle airport bars not opening till 8am but I don't see the point. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspect Device Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 2 hours ago, topcat(The most tip top) said: https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/homenews/19944484.airport-pubs-scottish-licensing-leader-backs-restrictions/?ref=twtrec Those horrible b*****ds snatched my milk when I was at primary school and they’ve not changed Milk and alcohol. Good tune. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Back Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 22 hours ago, 10menwent2mow said: Airport breakfast pints are mainly a thing for folk heading on holiday, a stagger etc. Depends how many you have surely? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10menwent2mow Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 13 hours ago, scottsdad said: Can you clarify - are you saying that lower class people are more prone to this than middle class folk, or that the middle class have this perception of the lower class? I'm suggesting that middle class folk like to sneer at lower class folk for having a drink problem while having a massive drink problem themselves. I get that this is a sweeping generalisation. But I think it's true. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 Minihol alcoprop ricing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyderspaceman Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 Approximately 30% of alcohol consumption occurs on licensed premises (according to stats I could find), so limiting licensing hours anywhere seems an irrelevance. IMO, pub drinking, on the whole, is the kind of socially acceptable drinking style that should be encouraged. As a % of an individual's consumption I would think airport drinking is miniscule. I'm not in favour of minimum alcohol pricing. The reasons behind alcohol abuse are societal and won't be seriously addressed by fiscal measures. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 8 hours ago, 10menwent2mow said: I'm suggesting that middle class folk like to sneer at lower class folk for having a drink problem while having a massive drink problem themselves. I get that this is a sweeping generalisation. But I think it's true. Higher income groups drink more alcohol and drink more frequently than lower income groups. https://www.statista.com/statistics/1124969/alcohol-consumption-frequency-by-income-uk/ There is a persistent group of "very low income, very high alcohol consumption" drinkers but it's a small group. Most people who are poor or on low incomes don't drink a lot. There is a better chart somewhere for this trend in Scotland but I can't find it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspect Device Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 Minimum alcohol pricing has cost Scots £270m, think tank claims - STV News -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 Minimum alcohol pricing has cost Scots £270m, think tank claims - STV NewsWebsite for the think tank in question https://iea.org.uk/ 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspect Device Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 46 minutes ago, topcat(The most tip top) said: Website for the think tank in question https://iea.org.uk/ You always have to be aware of who is writing what and if they have an agenda. Doesn't necessarily make it false but needs to be kept in mind. Christopher Snowdon. Quote Christopher John Snowdon is a British author and freelance journalist. He writes for Spiked magazine and other publications. He is particularly known as a vocal opponent of government intervention in matters such as alcohol and obesity; his Twitter biography used to state that he is "not that keen on the nanny state. (2) John Duffy | LinkedIn (2) Mark Tovey | LinkedIn Mail Online journalist 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hard Graft Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 So not the success they thought it would be. Probable answer will be to increase price per unit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 (2) John Duffy | LinkedIn (2) Mark Tovey | LinkedIn Mail Online journalist The website doesn’t explain who funds them but the British Medical Journal found that they were receiving funds from big tobacco companies I’d be surprised if they weren’t serving as paid mouthpieces of the Alcohol industry here 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in Denny Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 On the said Mr D alcohol industry links Further reading 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Jo Jo Junior Shabadoo Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 8 minutes ago, Bob in Denny said: On the said Mr D alcohol industry links Further reading He didn’t like that Old Man Patterson had his finger on the button. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspect Device Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 Minimum unit price not changing alcoholics' habits - BBC News I'm sure their answer will be to raise the MUP, but that would be difficult politically with a cost of living crisis already hitting the population. The last thing the government would want to do is make it worse. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted June 7, 2022 Author Share Posted June 7, 2022 8 minutes ago, Suspect Device said: Minimum unit price not changing alcoholics' habits - BBC News I'm sure their answer will be to raise the MUP, but that would be difficult politically with a cost of living crisis already hitting the population. The last thing the government would want to do is make it worse. Totally agree. It is a failed policy but the government will never come out and say "We got it wrong, we'll repeal it". They'll just keep the MUP at 50p and let inflation take its course. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sophia Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 41 minutes ago, scottsdad said: Totally agree. It is a failed policy but the government will never come out and say "We got it wrong, we'll repeal it". They'll just keep the MUP at 50p and let inflation take its course. Isn't that article concentrating upon those that suffer the worst affects of alcoholism? I read that as the poor souls that are at the end of the spectrum. As such and given that it does also speak of nuance, I think it is a stretch to extrapolate and declare the policy a failure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted June 7, 2022 Author Share Posted June 7, 2022 30 minutes ago, sophia said: Isn't that article concentrating upon those that suffer the worst affects of alcoholism? I read that as the poor souls that are at the end of the spectrum. As such and given that it does also speak of nuance, I think it is a stretch to extrapolate and declare the policy a failure. I wasn't stating the policy as a failure based on this one article. It caused a very brief drop in alcohol purchasing in 2018 which then returned to normal levels again afterwards. Didn't even bring alcohol buying down to 2014 levels. And the evidence is that for those at the extreme end of the spectrum, they just stopped paying for heating and eating to use the little money they had left on alcohol. And so, caused indirect health consequences on these poor folk. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clown Job Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 It’s been that long I can’t even remember what the chat was at the time of it's introduction Was MUP brought in to target alcoholics? I was thought it was overall more aimed at our culture of boozing to excess on cheap readily available alcohol 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cb_diamond Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 57 minutes ago, Clown Job said: It’s been that long I can’t even remember what the chat was at the time of it's introduction Was MUP brought in to target alcoholics? I was thought it was overall more aimed at our culture of boozing to excess on cheap readily available alcohol This was my impression of things also. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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