an86 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 22 minutes ago, Bring Your Own Socks said: I don't know his name yet but the committee, led by the president, will be looking for someone ambitious enough to take us out of this league and stabilise us in L1. Safe pair of hands won't be enough. I'm 100% behind them. Ambition is fine, but we can’t pretend the trapdoor is not there and we’re as much at risk as anyone of falling through it in the coming years. If we go down, it’s a long, long road back. The time will come when we’re in a battle to avoid it. That’s absolutely inevitable, whether it’s this year, next year, five years, or ten years down the line. Our ambitions have to be rooted in realism. An amateur club who will inevitably lose our best players, whether all at once or drip drip effect, is highly unlikely to establish itself as a stable League One side for more than a couple of seasons, as history shows. As usual, the difficult, but not unachievable aim in League Two would be promotion playoffs. If we managed to achieve promotion, the aim would be survival by any means possible. That won’t ever change for as long as we’re amateur and that’s fine. That’s our level. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring Your Own Socks Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 18 minutes ago, an86 said: Ambition is fine, but we can’t pretend the trapdoor is not there and we’re as much at risk as anyone of falling through it in the coming years. If we go down, it’s a long, long road back. The time will come when we’re in a battle to avoid it. That’s absolutely inevitable, whether it’s this year, next year, five years, or ten years down the line. Our ambitions have to be rooted in realism. An amateur club who will inevitably lose our best players, whether all at once or drip drip effect, is highly unlikely to establish itself as a stable League One side for more than a couple of seasons, as history shows. As usual, the difficult, but not unachievable aim in League Two would be promotion playoffs. If we managed to achieve promotion, the aim would be survival by any means possible. That won’t ever change for as long as we’re amateur and that’s fine. That’s our level. Okay. If you say so. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qpfc Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 (edited) Can't imagine Duffy or mcculloch applying for the job. Would like to think they'll have higher ambitions managing at league 1 level minimum. I'd say someone like Barry Smith would be a more realistic appointment. Edited September 20, 2018 by qpfc 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridgeofweirdo Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 Come back home Billy Stark. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williebraveheart Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 11 hours ago, qpfc said: Can't imagine Duffy or mcculloch applying for the job. Would like to think they'll have higher ambitions managing at league 1 level minimum. I'd say someone like Barry Smith would be a more realistic appointment. We could always ask them? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring Your Own Socks Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 Bit of clarity for the short-term, at least. Very welcome imho. Best of luck Mark. Hope the boys rise to the occasion on Saturday. http://www.queensparkfc.co.uk/?p=9330 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring Your Own Socks Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 According to Gus the draw for youngsters is getting to play first team foorball earlier at QP...that won't change in Gus' absence nor the venue we play at. Nothing to see hear folks... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokiejohn Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 Would Billy Ogilvie be worth a shout ? . Did relatively well with EK . Has had success with QP youth teams and knows the market etc . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alf Stamp Army Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 Would Billy Ogilvie be worth a shout ? . Did relatively well with EK . Has had success with QP youth teams and knows the market etc . Think his stock has fallen a bit since EK Short and unsuccessful spell at Arthurlie last season which ended up in them being relegated 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokiejohn Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 Think his stock has fallen a bit since EK Short and unsuccessful spell at Arthurlie last season which ended up in them being relegated Didn’t know it didn’t end well at Arthurlie , but personally I would like to see some fresh talent in the managerial ranks even with the risks associated instead of the same old faces as safe as they may be . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawfield shed boy Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 Remebering managers like Hartley,Lauchlan,Barry smith and McIntyres of the world all have mortgages to pay and out of work...Its no nice losing a good manager but same time is a wee buzz thinking and talking about who's getting it if its your club..Duffy would be a good appointment. Very under rated. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hampden Diehard Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 On 9/20/2018 at 21:37, qpfc said: Can't imagine Duffy or mcculloch applying for the job. Would like to think they'll have higher ambitions managing at league 1 level minimum. I'd say someone like Barry Smith would be a more realistic appointment. When you're sitting in the house watching Judge Judy and the Love Boat every day, I would reckon that the QP job would be a higher ambition than that. I'd be looking for someone who is a winner. Gus was that, and a great choice; we'll do very well to get anyone as good. The last five games of the season we went up were classic.....tense as feck but absolutely classic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hampden Diehard Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 56 minutes ago, shawfield shed boy said: Duffy would be a good appointment. Very under rated. I quite like the guy, but what have been his successes as a manager...has he won anything? Canny be ersed looking it up............. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hampden Diehard Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 14 hours ago, bridgeofweirdo said: Come back home Billy Stark. Wonderful days.......absolutely wonderful.................... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 Whatever you do, don't appoint Roberts. Couldn't manage his way out of a paper bag. Just wait... you'll go and thump Edinburgh City tomorrow now I've said that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
an86 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, Trogdor said: Whatever you do, don't appoint Roberts. Couldn't manage his way out of a paper bag. Just wait... you'll go and thump Edinburgh City tomorrow now I've said that. What was the story at Ayr? What did he inherit, how much time did he get, signings, style of play, background problems etc? Everything, basically. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawfield shed boy Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 I quite like the guy, but what have been his successes as a manager...has he won anything? Canny be ersed looking it up............. Coach at chelsea for several years. Thats not a bad gig for starters.. Too early in morning to think of rest. Norwich. Hibs to name a few im sure 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring Your Own Socks Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 10 hours ago, Trogdor said: Whatever you do, don't appoint Roberts. Couldn't manage his way out of a paper bag. Just wait... you'll go and thump Edinburgh City tomorrow now I've said that. How would he get in the bag in the first place? Don’t leave us hanging... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 10 hours ago, an86 said: What was the story at Ayr? What did he inherit, how much time did he get, signings, style of play, background problems etc? Everything, basically. Where to begin? He took over at the end of season 2011-12 from Brian Reid after we got relegated from the Championship again. Admittedly, the budget was less than Reid had. 1st season (2012/2013) - He signed some awful jobbers like Austin McCann, refused to play Jackson Longridge, managed to square go our own fans away to Albion Rovers and continued to play himself. We struggled to 7th in League One playing insipid hoof ball. If it wasn't for Michael Moffat we'd have probably been relegated. I actually stopped my season ticket at this point as I was so frustrated. 2nd season (2013/14) - He signed David Hutton , Anthony Marenghi, Gordon Pope, Kevin Kyle & Craig Malcolm. Although he repeatedly played Craig Malcolm out of position. Continued to launch the ball long at fat Kyle who at this stage couldn't jump an inch off the ground and would fall over claiming a foul. By some miracle (Michael Moffat's goals) we scraped 4th in League One by a point. Then got soundly pumped by Cowdenbeath 5-2 on aggregate. Roberts retains his job despite supporter discontent as he met his objectives (ie. Playoffs). Moffat leaves us for Dunfermline. 3rd season (2014/15) - His pattern of signing absolute jobbers and not playing young players continues. Kevin McKinlay, Nicky Devlin (actually good!), John Paul McGovern & Craig Beattie sign. Craig Beattie was a perma crock. We start the season with 4 wins, 1 draw & 1 loss not playing well to be honest. Then proceed to win 1 in 11 (sit 2nd bottom) with Roberts getting sacked in December when the board were left with no choice. Our attendances were into the mid hundreds for some home games. The club appoint Ian McCall who only just manages to salvage our season as we finish 8th and the rest is history. I'm confident had Roberts remained we would have been in League 2. In summary: Mark Roberts played old has beens rather than youths. I think he struggled to move from the joker in the dressing room to manager. Michael Moffat's goals papered over the cracks of his team's in his first 2 seasons. He was totally out of his depth, I remember he even invited a fan to the dugout to give instructions to the team. He was an arrogant t**t to boot and wouldn't admit he was out of his depth. Square going your own fans is never good... My advice even if he wins every game as caretaker do not appoint him! P.S. Apologies for gazumping your thread but you did ask. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, Bring Your Own Socks said: How would he get in the bag in the first place? Don’t leave us hanging... Our board saw him as the cheap option to be honest. The only highlight of his reign for me (and it was right at the start) was when we played Bolton Wanderers in pre-season (they had just been relegated from the EPL) at Somerset. We were 1 nil down and Roberts subbed himself on and scored for us to draw 1-1. It was real Roy of the Rovers stuff. It went rapidly downhill from there... Anyways I've said my piece, best of luck for the season and good luck with the Hampden shenanigans. Always enjoy a game against you, although our Irn Bru Cup game this season was as dull as... Good luck in that as well! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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