Dundee United 2018/2019

[mishtergrolsch]

17 minutes ago, ArabianKnight said:

Well that's certainly an improvement last few games. Wish we had got Neilson before instead of now. 

If only Mike Martin could see how terrible Csaba was we could be in such a stronger position.

Looks like we have to do it the hard (United) way.

[Dirty Arab 83]

Far too much laughing and joking, sporadic outbursts of singing amongst the travelling Arabs today, .................... Bring back Csaba . [emoji6][emoji106]

[stumigoo]

Part me is still worried this might not be an actual turning point but it feels like it is. Everything seems much more positive and relaxed which is an unusual and worrying feeling given the past few years. 

I know the budget is tight but if we are still in decent form when we get to January then the board really still need to push the boat out and allow Neilson to bring in at least one or two.

[ArabianKnight]

37 minutes ago, stumigoo said:

Part me is still worried this might not be an actual turning point but it feels like it is. Everything seems much more positive and relaxed which is an unusual and worrying feeling given the past few years. 

I know the budget is tight but if we are still in decent form when we get to January then the board really still need to push the boat out and allow Neilson to bring in at least one or two.

Where would you strengthen without lumbering us with a couple of players sitting doing nothing essentially? 

I can only really think of us bringing in a solid experienced RB and a creative midfielder without being heavy in other areas. 

As bad as it sounds you just have to work with the tools you've got sometimes. Aye there's the trade off in performance but I think its fair enough to say the budget is tight enough without straining it further. 

The calibre of player we need would break the bank. 

[Granny Danger]

34 minutes ago, ArabianKnight said:

Where would you strengthen without lumbering us with a couple of players sitting doing nothing essentially? 

I can only really think of us bringing in a solid experienced RB and a creative midfielder without being heavy in other areas. 

As bad as it sounds you just have to work with the tools you've got sometimes. Aye there's the trade off in performance but I think its fair enough to say the budget is tight enough without straining it further. 

The calibre of player we need would break the bank. 

Based on what’s happened since he has taken over, I’d feel confident with Neilson deciding what players to bring in and what positions he needs to strengthen.

 

[stumigoo]

37 minutes ago, ArabianKnight said:

Where would you strengthen without lumbering us with a couple of players sitting doing nothing essentially? 

I can only really think of us bringing in a solid experienced RB and a creative midfielder without being heavy in other areas. 

As bad as it sounds you just have to work with the tools you've got sometimes. Aye there's the trade off in performance but I think its fair enough to say the budget is tight enough without straining it further. 

The calibre of player we need would break the bank. 

Personally I still think we are short of one striker and a creative midfielder. If Safranko gets injured we are badly exposed in that area despite having Clark and Curran (who is not a natural goalscorer). It also looks like with the type of football Neilson wants us to play that Loemba is not part of his planning so we need another player who can play in behind the striker.

[ArabianKnight]

7 minutes ago, Granny Danger said:

Based on what’s happened since he has taken over, I’d feel confident with Neilson deciding what players to bring in and what positions he needs to strengthen.

 

Yeah I'm confident too it's just budgetary constraints that worry me. 

6 minutes ago, stumigoo said:

Personally I still think we are short of one striker and a creative midfielder. If Safranko gets injured we are badly exposed in that area despite having Clark and Curran (who is not a natural goalscorer). It also looks like with the type of football Neilson wants us to play that Loemba is not part of his planning so we need another player who can play in behind the striker.

Aye another striker wouldn't go amiss. 

Shame Matty Smith isn't getting somewhere. 

[Mark Connolly]

1 hour ago, stumigoo said:

Part me is still worried this might not be an actual turning point but it feels like it is. Everything seems much more positive and relaxed which is an unusual and worrying feeling given the past few years. 

I know the budget is tight but if we are still in decent form when we get to January then the board really still need to push the boat out and allow Neilson to bring in at least one or two.

I'm with you on the worry, especially with the fact everyone else has a game in hand.

There are positives though - we actually had one of those things where you don't lose a goal to the other team. That's only the 2nd time in the league (although the other was Falkirk so that hardly counts).

[Dirty Arab 83]

Aye another striker wouldn't go amiss. 
Shame Matty Smith isn't getting somewhere. 

Is that the same as budgerigar restraints [emoji15]

[Pull My Strings]

1 hour ago, ArabianKnight said:

Where would you strengthen without lumbering us with a couple of players sitting doing nothing essentially? 

I can only really think of us bringing in a solid experienced RB and a creative midfielder without being heavy in other areas. 

As bad as it sounds you just have to work with the tools you've got sometimes. Aye there's the trade off in performance but I think its fair enough to say the budget is tight enough without straining it further. 

The calibre of player we need would break the bank. 

Depends how Murdoch, Booth and Robson get on between now and January. Both full backs were pretty good today, I thought. 

[ArabianKnight]

1 minute ago, Pull My Strings said:

Depends how Murdoch, Booth and Robson get on between now and January. Both full backs were pretty good today, I thought. 

That's what I mean though, Murdoch is a utility player that's "okay" in a few positions. So United have got Wardrop who's 21, and Booth and Robson who are both younger as full backs. 

I really think we need a decent experienced RB to let Murdoch provide cover elsewhere. I'd rather have Murdoch on the bench as DM or CB cover than Barton for instance. 

[mishtergrolsch]

2 hours ago, ArabianKnight said:

That's what I mean though, Murdoch is a utility player that's "okay" in a few positions. So United have got Wardrop who's 21, and Booth and Robson who are both younger as full backs. 

I really think we need a decent experienced RB to let Murdoch provide cover elsewhere. I'd rather have Murdoch on the bench as DM or CB cover than Barton for instance. 

Also, a natural right back would add to the attacking side of things by crossing the half way line and overlapping the winger and getting a cross in occasionally.

Booth seems to be settling in a bit so would leave him in there for a few weeks and give him a chance.

A striker would be useful but i think a creative player would be more important as we have Clark, Curran, Smith and McMullan if Safranko gets injured. Not that i rate Curran or Smith much but a game or two wouldnt be the end of the world if they were getting plenty chances on goal from said creative player.

As it stands id probably say, in order of importance we need a

 

Right back

Creative midfielder

Striker

Goalkeeper as i still feel like shitting myself every time i see them have to do something.

 

[stumigoo]

Talking of players and squad additions, here is a wee trip down memory lane to the days of 2016/17 - Link

[Granny Danger]

11 hours ago, mishtergrolsch said:

 

Goalkeeper as i still feel like shitting myself every time i see them have to do something.

 

I wasn’t at the Partick game but Seigrist has been fine on the last two games.  Good awareness yesterday and a good save with his legs when Dunfermline should have scored.

 

[Dirty Arab 83]

I wasn’t at the Partick game but Seigrist has been fine on the last two games.  Good awareness yesterday and a good save with his legs when Dunfermline should have scored.
 

I agree totally Granny, but I must side with M.G. In his post........the guy just doesn't inspire any confidence , every time he's called into action I find myself thinking "incoming f**k-up"

[captainkev]

7 minutes ago, Dirty Arab 83 said:

I agree totally Granny, but I must side with M.G. In his post........the guy just doesn't inspire any confidence , every time he's called into action I find myself thinking "incoming f**k-up"

United fans are probably just conditioned to expect that from our goalkeeper after several years of flaky and dodgy keepers going all the way back to Cierzniak.

[UnitedLoon63]

Also, a natural right back would add to the attacking side of things by crossing the half way line and overlapping the winger and getting a cross in occasionally.
Booth seems to be settling in a bit so would leave him in there for a few weeks and give him a chance.
A striker would be useful but i think a creative player would be more important as we have Clark, Curran, Smith and McMullan if Safranko gets injured. Not that i rate Curran or Smith much but a game or two wouldnt be the end of the world if they were getting plenty chances on goal from said creative player.
As it stands id probably say, in order of importance we need a
 
Right back
Creative midfielder
Striker
Goalkeeper as i still feel like shitting myself every time i see them have to do something.
 

Mehmet will be back soon, and would pick him over the other two

[Dirty Arab 83]

United fans are probably just conditioned to expect that from our goalkeeper after several years of flaky and dodgy keepers going all the way back to Cierzniak.

That's a good point too, maybe it's in our mindset now that we're United and don't have a good keeper. !

[Dirty Arab 83]

But then Bell was outstanding for us in some games, all without the aid of a strong defence toward the end, Remember the three penalty saves at Dunfermline [emoji968][emoji968][emoji968][emoji106]. A keeper who dominated his area, maybe that's what I'm looking for.

[Granny Danger]

We have a whole bunch of players that some folk would have written off under Laszlo but who have performed well in Neilson’s short reign.

I think Seigrist deserves the same grace as the outfield players.

It is important to have good backup and the option of Seigrist or Mehmet should be enough for a club the size of United but if Neilson thinks it’s a position that needs strengthening I’m sure he’ll tell the board.