WhiteRoseKillie Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, NotThePars said: 7 in 10 Labour Party members say Burnham would be a better leader than Starmer. There's one right here that thinks my boy, here, would be better. Edited June 30, 2021 by WhiteRoseKillie 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 There was a large section of the Labour Party that wanted rid of Corbyn but they must have expected far more from Starmer. He has been an utter disaster. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 Galloway has obviously went off the reservation recently but there is no one better at absolutely destroying disingenuous questioners. If the Labour left ever get back in power in the party this has to be the strategy from day one. Never let the media set the agenda. Any time they are trying to f**k you over immediately go on the attack. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 Starmer will be a very relieved man though ironically this result is probably bad news for Labour as it will mean he can carry on being totally ineffective. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 There’s no alternative to Starmer so it really doesn’t matter who is in charge. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 10 minutes ago, NotThePars said: There’s no alternative to Starmer so it really doesn’t matter who is in charge. Nail on the head here. Some Labour types will say Burnham but that missed two key points. First, he isn't an MP. Second, he's an utter lightweight that will inspire nobody to vote Labour. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 30 minutes ago, scottsdad said: Nail on the head here. Some Labour types will say Burnham but that missed two key points. First, he isn't an MP. Second, he's an utter lightweight that will inspire nobody to vote Labour. I dunno. He is nasty, cynical and authoritarian. I think he would do well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 Unbelievable that Starmer should hail last night's by election result as a huge victory for Labour despite the fact they just managed to hold on to the seat and with a significantly reduced majority. I used to have a lot of respect for Starmer, but not any more Labour are on the way back? Labour are coming home? No Keir, I don't think so. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SANTAN Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 10 hours ago, ICTJohnboy said: Unbelievable that Starmer should hail last night's by election result as a huge victory for Labour despite the fact they just managed to hold on to the seat and with a significantly reduced majority. I used to have a lot of respect for Starmer, but not any more Labour are on the way back? Labour are coming home? No Keir, I don't think so. You lost respect for the man because he celebrated Labour winning a seat? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 25 minutes ago, Stormzy said: You lost respect for the man because he celebrated Labour winning a seat? He used to be worth listening to, but now seems to have decided that the best way forward in this day and age is to try and emulate Boris and his cronies by spouting as many lies and as much BS as possible. Unfortunately it's an approach that's not going to get him anywhere - he's just not in BoJo's league when it comes to spreading lies around. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SANTAN Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 29 minutes ago, ICTJohnboy said: He used to be worth listening to, but now seems to have decided that the best way forward in this day and age is to try and emulate Boris and his cronies by spouting as many lies and as much BS as possible. Unfortunately it's an approach that's not going to get him anywhere - he's just not in BoJo's league when it comes to spreading lies around. Fair enough. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 (edited) https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jul/03/keir-starmer-takes-on-tories-with-buy-british-economic-plan All parties now officially battering into this gubbins, "public contracts for local businesses" agenda. Which has worked out so well for the islanders who are still waiting on the utterly useless shipyard at Ferguson's to complete their Cal-Mac ferry contract, when a Polish outfit in Gdansk would have completed them on time and on budget years ago instead. Edited July 3, 2021 by vikingTON 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 1 hour ago, virginton said: Which has worked out so well for the islanders who are still waiting on the utterly useless shipyard at Ferguson's to complete their Cal-Mac ferry contract, when a Polish outfit in Gdansk would have completed them on time and on budget years ago instead. Really? Which Polish yard has expertise in hydrogen power trains? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 I don't think you know how ferries work champ. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elric Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 7 hours ago, Baxter Parp said: Really? Which Polish yard has expertise in hydrogen power trains? What has this to do with ship building? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 12 hours ago, virginton said: I don't think you know how ferries work champ. It's a simple question, champ. Which Polish yard specialises in hydrogen powered ferries? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Baxter Parp said: It's a simple question, champ. Which Polish yard specialises in hydrogen powered ferries? I don't know and I don't care. What has that got to do with the bungled Cal Mac ferry order at Fergusons, which were to be powered by, erm, diesel and liquified natural gas and not hydrogen in any way whatsoever? Edited July 4, 2021 by vikingTON 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 6 minutes ago, virginton said: I don't know and I don't care. What has that got to do with the bungled Cal Mac ferry order at Fergusons, which were to be powered by, erm, diesel and liquified natural gas and not hydrogen in any way whatsoever? Ok, which Polish yard specialises in that? And that's not the only ferry being built. http://www.scottishenergynews.com/scottish-shipyard-to-build-worlds-first-hydrogen-powered-sea-going-ferry-on-the-lower-clyde-with-eu-green-funding/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salish-class_ferry 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Baxter Parp said: Ok, which Polish yard specialises in that? They don't need to specialise in it: the plans were devised and companies bid for the work. And in this case the company that was awarded the work has made an utter, rip-roaring c**t of the job - so evidently not 'specialised' in the task at all - yet gets away with wasting taxpayers' money and undermining crucial public transport links for years. Quote And that's not the only ferry being built. http://www.scottishenergynews.com/scottish-shipyard-to-build-worlds-first-hydrogen-powered-sea-going-ferry-on-the-lower-clyde-with-eu-green-funding/ I couldn't give a toss about that tbh, but given that the article boasts that they'd be rolling off a vessel in 2020 we can safely add that to the list of utter fail when using that useless 'but Scottish' shipyard. Edited July 4, 2021 by vikingTON 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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