Colkitto Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 Basically Salmond has played a blinder. He takes a bullet for the team and in an instant he stopped the damage to the indy cause, the SNP and Nicola. Robbed the Unionist media of their fuel to make continuous attacks on the FM to oust him from the Party. Nullified the Unionist parties attacks for when the parliament returns next week Raises the funds to finance the Judiciary Review and makes enough in the crowdfunder to show massive support for him on a personal level and allow him to fund good charity causes - great PR The comments from Unionist politicians is hilarious, especially from the Labour party. The Unionist journos trying and failing to create a schism in the SNP and wider Yes movement "IF" there is no case to answer and no criminality involved he's going to come out this even stronger 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadgerTheBadger Posted August 30, 2018 Author Share Posted August 30, 2018 Ach aye... socialists and other people’s money eh 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 Basically Salmond has played a blinder. He takes a bullet for the team and in an instant he stopped the damage to the indy cause, the SNP and Nicola. Robbed the Unionist media of their fuel to make continuous attacks on the FM to oust him from the Party. Nullified the Unionist parties attacks for when the parliament returns next week Raises the funds to finance the Judiciary Review and makes enough in the crowdfunder to show massive support for him on a personal level and allow him to fund good charity causes - great PR The comments from Unionist politicians is hilarious, especially from the Labour party. The Unionist journos trying and failing to create a schism in the SNP and wider Yes movement "IF" there is no case to answer and no criminality involved he's going to come out this even stronger Can go both ways tbh. If criminal proceedings are instigated he's going to look like a right fud, if not the phoenix will arise stronger than ever.... Also by leaving the party it sends a message that independence is not about him or the SNP, it's much bigger.I hope these allegations are untrue for two reasons. 1. No person had to be subject to improper advances and 2. The salty salty Brit nat tears on here and throughout the media. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double Jack D Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 29 minutes ago, Colkitto said: Basically Salmond has played a blinder. He takes a bullet for the team and in an instant he stopped the damage to the indy cause, the SNP and Nicola. Robbed the Unionist media of their fuel to make continuous attacks on the FM to oust him from the Party. Nullified the Unionist parties attacks for when the parliament returns next week Raises the funds to finance the Judiciary Review and makes enough in the crowdfunder to show massive support for him on a personal level and allow him to fund good charity causes - great PR The comments from Unionist politicians is hilarious, especially from the Labour party. The Unionist journos trying and failing to create a schism in the SNP and wider Yes movement "IF" there is no case to answer and no criminality involved he's going to come out this even stronger I would add into this that it has allowed the strength and integrity of Nicola Sturgeon as a political leader to be amplified. She has been most impressive in reaction and response to this. I look forward to seeing how other political parties react to sexual misconduct allegations against their members..... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colkitto Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 4 minutes ago, John Lambies Doos said: Can go both ways tbh. If criminal proceedings are instigated he's going to look like a right fud, if not the phoenix will arise stronger than ever.... Also by leaving the party it sends a message that independence is not about him or the SNP, it's much bigger. I hope these allegations are untrue for two reasons. 1. No person had to be subject to improper advances and 2. The salty salty Brit nat tears on here and throughout the media. Of course, if criminal proceedings are instigated and he's found guilty then he's let everyone down and will never recover. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colkitto Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 1 minute ago, Double Jack D said: I would add into this that it has allowed the strength and integrity of Nicola Sturgeon as a political leader to be amplified. She has been most impressive in reaction and response to this. I look forward to seeing how other political parties react to sexual misconduct allegations against their members..... True. Nicola has not been damaged at all in this and most would agree she has handled it impressively. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A.F.C Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 Could he have left the snp because he touches boobs? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harry94 Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 True. Nicola has not been damaged at all in this and most would agree she has handled it impressively. I don't disagree she's handled it as well as she could have at the current moment but if anything untoward is proven, I could see the shit sticking to the current administration. They've been in power longer than governments usually last and there usually becomes a point where scandals become infectious.These sorts of things routinely become quite damaging because they impact at a subconscious level. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 4 minutes ago, D.A.F.C said: Could he have left the snp because he touches boobs? Is this normally frowned upon in the workplace? Asking for a mate. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banana Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 Yet another in a long line of men being destroyed by mere allegations from a woman. If only someone had been warning about the lunatic direction of feminism in recent years Salmond and all SNP supporters should of course use his time-out to consider how his own party has helped propagate this towards its logical conclusion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 If that was the case they would have no members, except the Nairn branch of course 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loondave1 Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 Can go both ways tbh. If criminal proceedings are instigated he's going to look like a right fud, if not the phoenix will arise stronger than ever.... Also by leaving the party it sends a message that independence is not about him or the SNP, it's much bigger.I hope these allegations are untrue for two reasons. 1. No person had to be subject to improper advances and 2. The salty salty Brit nat tears on here and throughout the media.His crowdfunding effort has politicised things by proxy though. Allowing Nats to pile in with their donations to his fighting fund intrinsically links it to the Indy cause and sends out a message to his accusers that they if named are fair game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 4 minutes ago, John Lambies Doos said: If that was the case they would have no members, except the Nairn branch of course 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A.F.C Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 31 minutes ago, Melanius Mullarkey said: Is this normally frowned upon in the workplace? Asking for a mate. Sometimes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colkitto Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 41 minutes ago, harry94 said: I don't disagree she's handled it as well as she could have at the current moment but if anything untoward is proven, I could see the shit sticking to the current administration. They've been in power longer than governments usually last and there usually becomes a point where scandals become infectious. These sorts of things routinely become quite damaging because they impact at a subconscious level. I would imagine that's why she has distanced herself and her government to a certain degree from Salmond. If he's found guilty then she's kept enough distance not to be totally engulfed with the almost certain outrage 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 38 minutes ago, harry94 said: I don't disagree she's handled it as well as she could have at the current moment but if anything untoward is proven, I could see the shit sticking to the current administration. They've been in power longer than governments usually last and there usually becomes a point where scandals become infectious. These sorts of things routinely become quite damaging because they impact at a subconscious level. If the case drags out then she could find herself continually discussing it and being asked about it and it has the potential to drag out. There's the judicial review into the Scottish government's complaints procedures. Then there's the outcome of the Scottish government's investigation into the complaints. Then there is potentially a criminal case. This could go on for years. There is also the potential for division within the SNP- we've seen some elected representatives backing Alex Salmond's case and others backing the stance taken by the Scottish government. The whole thing is a depressing reminder that for a lot of people your views and prominence mask your behaviour. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 If I was a betting man, he will be totally cleared of this 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, Colkitto said: I would imagine that's why she has distanced herself and her government to a certain degree from Salmond. If he's found guilty then she's kept enough distance not to be totally engulfed with the almost certain outrage She doesn't really have any choice - was she really going to agree that the Scottish Governments complaints procedures, which her administration asked to be updated, were unfair and illegal? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspect Device Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 9 minutes ago, John Lambies Doos said: If I was a betting man, he will be totally cleared of this One of the problems with these kind of accusations is that he will never be clear of this. Ask John Leslie...... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williemillersmoustache Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 46 minutes ago, John Lambies Doos said: If that was the case they would have no members, except the Nairn branch of course 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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