Celtic V Aberdeen (29th September)

[kingjoey]

21 hours ago, The OP said:

What exactly are we supposed to be looking at here? A classless Celtic captain rudely pointing at someone?

[The OP]

[The OP]

[Bairnardo]

Monkeys point

[wastecoatwilly]

Aberdeen 6 points off the bottom,still at the start of the season.

[kingjoey]

3 hours ago, The OP said:

Keep them coming. Long gone are the days of Celtic having a captain full of class like Billy McNeil.

[G-MAN]

Keep them coming. Long gone are the days of Celtic having a captain full of class like Billy McNeil.

Using old pictures as well.

Brown is finished.

[The OP]

3 hours ago, Bairnardo said:

Monkeys point

Racist.

 

Personally I'd have Brown up there with the top 2 or 3 pointers in the game. Aberdeen couldn't cope with his pointing on Saturday. Probably was the difference between the two sides. 

[kingjoey]

20 minutes ago, The OP said:

Racist.

 

Personally I'd have Brown up there with the top 2 or 3 pointers in the game. Aberdeen couldn't cope with his pointing on Saturday. Probably was the difference between the two sides. 

The difference between the sides was the three points that Celtic came away with.

[The OP]

6 minutes ago, kingjoey said:

The difference between the sides was the three points that Celtic came away with.

How come Celtic got 3 points and Aberdeen never? It's because Aberdeen lost the game in the middle of the park due to insufficient pointing. 

[Jimboyjones1976]

On 24/09/2018 at 17:03, Flybhoy said:

Another red card for the horrible wee b*****d again hopefully, no doubt he'll interpret being booed by Celtic fans because he's a prize tit as being racist and whine in the media about it, who will take it as fact.

Comfortable 2-0 win for Celtic, Griffiths and Rogic.

Even before the Tonev incident, I never liked this wee p***k. Tbh, I never believed the judgement that the SFA handed out. My initial thoughts on the situation was that Logan, the wee p***k, was now a wee p***k who had also used the race card against a player from my team. The SFA’s judgement was based on probability, and this from an organisation that couldn’t manage their own dinner.

Personally, if this was racist, it should have been dealt with by the law, not the SFA. They are simply not equipped to deal with an issue like this. When racism, or racist incidents happen on the pitch, that doesn’t mean it should be handled by the governing body. It should be handled by the law. It wasn’t. I don’t even think there was enough evidence or back up testimony to make it a case in law. The fact that the SFA dealt with it meant that a very serious and shameful tag was handed to Tonev and was handed down without the thorough process of law. Tonev was branded the worst of the worst based on probability. Probability isn’t fact. Imagine how many wrongful convictions we’d have if law was based on probability. Fact is that Logan walked away from it only because he “seemed convincing” according to the SFA, who also managed to judge on Tonev’s convincibility even though he needed the manager to help with the language. I believe there were words between Logan and Tonev. But there’s no proof of the type needed to label someone racist in a legal sense. To this end, I’m still yet to be convinced that racist language was used and that Logan since then has gone out of his way to wind up Celtic and their fans. Pity is that he’s shite at doing that. Just because someone doesn’t believe he wasn’t racially abused doesn’t make that person racist themselves. However, someone who instantly judges someone who doesn’t believe Logan as racist, is probably more dangerous and narrow minded a person.

Anyway, Logan has always been a wee p***k even before the Tonev clash. He still is. Lacks class and I wouldn’t be in tears to see him getting his puss smacked by a hearty Boyata challenge.

[Bairnardo]

How come Celtic got 3 points and Aberdeen never? It's because Aberdeen lost the game in the middle of the park due to insufficient pointing. 

Interesting point.

[Melanius Mullarkey]

Sweet Jesus.

 

[Bohemian]

2 minutes ago, Jimboyjones1976 said:

Even before the Tonev incident, I never liked this wee p***k. Tbh, I never believed the judgement that the SFA handed out. My initial thoughts on the situation was that Logan, the wee p***k, was now a wee p***k who had also used the race card against a player from my team. The SFA’s judgement was based on probability, and this from an organisation that couldn’t manage their own dinner.

Personally, if this was racist, it should have been dealt with by the law, not the SFA. They are simply not equipped to deal with an issue like this. When racism, or racist incidents happen on the pitch, that doesn’t mean it should be handled by the governing body. It should be handled by the law. It wasn’t. I don’t even think there was enough evidence or back up testimony to make it a case in law. The fact that the SFA dealt with it meant that a very serious and shameful tag was handed to Tonev and was handed down without the thorough process of law. Tonev was branded the worst of the worst based on probability. Probability isn’t fact. Imagine how many wrongful convictions we’d have if law was based on probability. Fact is that Logan walked away from it only because he “seemed convincing” according to the SFA, who also managed to judge on Tonev’s convincibility even though he needed the manager to help with the language. I believe there were words between Logan and Tonev. But there’s no proof of the type needed to label someone racist in a legal sense. To this end, I’m still yet to be convinced that racist language was used and that Logan since then has gone out of his way to wind up Celtic and their fans. Pity is that he’s shite at doing that. Just because someone doesn’t believe he wasn’t racially abused doesn’t make that person racist themselves. However, someone who instantly judges someone who doesn’t believe Logan as racist, is probably more dangerous and narrow minded a person.

Anyway, Logan has always been a wee p***k even before the Tonev clash. He still is. Lacks class and I wouldn’t be in tears to see him getting his puss smacked by a hearty Boyata challenge.

Have a lie down

[The OP]

3 minutes ago, Jimboyjones1976 said:

Even before the Tonev incident, I never liked this wee p***k. Tbh, I never believed the judgement that the SFA handed out. My initial thoughts on the situation was that Logan, the wee p***k, was now a wee p***k who had also used the race card against a player from my team. The SFA’s judgement was based on probability, and this from an organisation that couldn’t manage their own dinner.

Personally, if this was racist, it should have been dealt with by the law, not the SFA. They are simply not equipped to deal with an issue like this. When racism, or racist incidents happen on the pitch, that doesn’t mean it should be handled by the governing body. It should be handled by the law. It wasn’t. I don’t even think there was enough evidence or back up testimony to make it a case in law. The fact that the SFA dealt with it meant that a very serious and shameful tag was handed to Tonev and was handed down without the thorough process of law. Tonev was branded the worst of the worst based on probability. Probability isn’t fact. Imagine how many wrongful convictions we’d have if law was based on probability. Fact is that Logan walked away from it only because he “seemed convincing” according to the SFA, who also managed to judge on Tonev’s convincibility even though he needed the manager to help with the language. I believe there were words between Logan and Tonev. But there’s no proof of the type needed to label someone racist in a legal sense. To this end, I’m still yet to be convinced that racist language was used and that Logan since then has gone out of his way to wind up Celtic and their fans. Pity is that he’s shite at doing that. Just because someone doesn’t believe he wasn’t racially abused doesn’t make that person racist themselves. However, someone who instantly judges someone who doesn’t believe Logan as racist, is probably more dangerous and narrow minded a person.

Anyway, Logan has always been a wee p***k even before the Tonev clash. He still is. Lacks class and I wouldn’t be in tears to see him getting his puss smacked by a hearty Boyata challenge.

The law makes judgments based upon the balance of probabilities all the time. The tribunal procedure had a weird conflation of criminal and civil law as I understand their options were guilty, not guilty and not proven but I'd say that the judge/judges would have been well placed to decide whose evidence they preferred and they preferred Logan's. I don't see why he would lie tbh, I think it more likely than not that Tonev racially abused him. 

[Bairnardo]

9 minutes ago, Jimboyjones1976 said:

Even before the Tonev incident, I never liked this wee p***k. Tbh, I never believed the judgement that the SFA handed out. My initial thoughts on the situation was that Logan, the wee p***k, was now a wee p***k who had also used the race card against a player from my team. The SFA’s judgement was based on probability, and this from an organisation that couldn’t manage their own dinner.

Personally, if this was racist, it should have been dealt with by the law, not the SFA. They are simply not equipped to deal with an issue like this. When racism, or racist incidents happen on the pitch, that doesn’t mean it should be handled by the governing body. It should be handled by the law. It wasn’t. I don’t even think there was enough evidence or back up testimony to make it a case in law. The fact that the SFA dealt with it meant that a very serious and shameful tag was handed to Tonev and was handed down without the thorough process of law. Tonev was branded the worst of the worst based on probability. Probability isn’t fact. Imagine how many wrongful convictions we’d have if law was based on probability. Fact is that Logan walked away from it only because he “seemed convincing” according to the SFA, who also managed to judge on Tonev’s convincibility even though he needed the manager to help with the language. I believe there were words between Logan and Tonev. But there’s no proof of the type needed to label someone racist in a legal sense. To this end, I’m still yet to be convinced that racist language was used and that Logan since then has gone out of his way to wind up Celtic and their fans. Pity is that he’s shite at doing that. Just because someone doesn’t believe he wasn’t racially abused doesn’t make that person racist themselves. However, someone who instantly judges someone who doesn’t believe Logan as racist, is probably more dangerous and narrow minded a person.

Anyway, Logan has always been a wee p***k even before the Tonev clash. He still is. Lacks class and I wouldn’t be in tears to see him getting his puss smacked by a hearty Boyata challenge.

 

[The OP]

The thing is the Logan thing seems to have calmed down despite the kerfuffle on the last day of the season. The booing was almost nothing apart from when he was taking a thrown in at the Green Brigade corner. 

[Jimboyjones1976]

1 minute ago, The OP said:

The thing is the Logan thing seems to have calmed down despite the kerfuffle on the last day of the season. The booing was almost nothing apart from when he was taking a thrown in at the Green Brigade corner. 

I agree. Thing is though that posters on this thread are posting pictures of Logan and making comments that imply that if a Celtic fan boos him then they are racist so maybe it hasn’t died down for them.

[TheCelt67]

2 hours ago, The OP said:

Racist.

 

Personally I'd have Brown up there with the top 2 or 3 pointers in the game. Aberdeen couldn't cope with his pointing on Saturday. Probably was the difference between the two sides. 

Aye, he's no' bad at the old pointing but he's certainly no Peter Grant. 

[ICTChris]

I'd never thought about it before but Peter Grant *was* a top class pointer.